Live Conflict Syria Civil War

[nick.f]

In a Greek geopolitical show on the radio yesterday a couple of guys claimed this:
There is a probability Golani works with the Western powers, exactly the same who have a price tag on his head. They said if USA REALLY wanted to get rid of him do you think he would be breathing right now?
They said Golani wants to control all those groups so that they don't start shooting each other right now, to control the part that is not controlled by Kurds or Israel.
They claimed Erdogan didn't want exactly Assad to fall completely, that he wanted to put pressure on Assad so that Erdogan would control him, meaning control Syria. Before Assad fell there was one Syria with its borders and one government. Sure there were PROBLEMS. Bad dictator? Bad dictator and he didn't control all of Syria 100% but what is exactly the situation now? What are Syria's borders now? Will it be one country or divided? There is not just one person controlling Syria even if he is bad, so that other powers have to control just one person.
Golani's number one issue aren't the Kurds, while Turkey's number one issue is that Kurds don't get an independent state. They said the Americans have probably guaranteed the Kurds East of Euphrates, Manbij isn't East of Euphrates so USA didn't help them there but if they decide to give Kurds a state East of Euphrates and Golani doesn't care how will Turks send their army in a Syria contolled by others?
There are some articles that say the Turks seem to be creating a huge modern Turkish, not Ottoman this time, empire. In the short run Turks seem to be getting strong and are justified to be happy but the West as a gift to congratulate you will give you a snake in your bossom, an independent Kurdistan. In the long run it will be a disaster for Turkey. Like when in 1830 Greece got independent, it was just the Peloponese at the moment but despite all the disaster for the Greeks that followed 100 years later the Greeks reached outside Ankara. If the interests of the Powers at the time were different...
About Cyprus they said Turks had the green light by others on 1974 to do what they did and the Greeks were held back by otherpowers too. This time you have angered and annoyed both Russians and Americans and they will not allow you to do as you please in Cyprus and the Mediterranean. They said Putin talked with Trump so that Putin gives Syria and Assad to USA now so that Trump gives Putin whatever he gives concerning Ukraine when he comes to power. Wasn't Trump the one who recognised officially Jerusalem as the capital and the Golan Heights as Israeli ground back then? This time too Trump will see the situation in Syria and the Middle East with Israeli eyes and whatever Israel wants Israel gets. Like an independent Kurdistan as a Christmas gift for the Turks.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

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I hope they can do that too we need Belt 40-50 km. I also don't understand why they want their messed up PKK government right on Turkey's borders. Let them set up their dictatorial Kurdistan, whatever, further down in Syria. Then the Syrians and the Syrian Kurds can sort it out internally. That will no longer be Turkey's problem.

 

[AWP]

Israel army are just 30 Km away from Damascus , way beyond the EEZ line

maybe within a week they will enter the capital

 

[Afif]

Israel army are just 30 Km away from Damascus , way beyond the EEZ line

maybe within a week they will enter the capital

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No they won't.

 

[AWP]

No they won't.

Few days ago they didn’t capture any villages, today they did. Typical Israeli behavior

They will somehow enforce Syria to normalize or sign new deal

 

[Lool]

In a Greek geopolitical show on the radio yesterday a couple of guys claimed this:
There is a probability Golani works with the Western powers, exactly the same who have a price tag on his head. They said if USA REALLY wanted to get rid of him do you think he would be breathing right now?
They said Golani wants to control all those groups so that they don't start shooting each other right now, to control the part that is not controlled by Kurds or Israel.
They claimed Erdogan didn't want exactly Assad to fall completely, that he wanted to put pressure on Assad so that Erdogan would control him, meaning control Syria. Before Assad fell there was one Syria with its borders and one government. Sure there were PROBLEMS. Bad dictator? Bad dictator and he didn't control all of Syria 100% but what is exactly the situation now? What are Syria's borders now? Will it be one country or divided? There is not just one person controlling Syria even if he is bad, so that other powers have to control just one person.
Golani's number one issue aren't the Kurds, while Turkey's number one issue is that Kurds don't get an independent state. They said the Americans have probably guaranteed the Kurds East of Euphrates, Manbij isn't East of Euphrates so USA didn't help them there but if they decide to give Kurds a state East of Euphrates and Golani doesn't care how will Turks send their army in a Syria contolled by others?
There are some articles that say the Turks seem to be creating a huge modern Turkish, not Ottoman this time, empire. In the short run Turks seem to be getting strong and are justified to be happy but the West as a gift to congratulate you will give you a snake in your bossom, an independent Kurdistan. In the long run it will be a disaster for Turkey. Like when in 1830 Greece got independent, it was just the Peloponese at the moment but despite all the disaster for the Greeks that followed 100 years later the Greeks reached outside Ankara. If the interests of the Powers at the time were different...
About Cyprus they said Turks had the green light by others on 1974 to do what they did and the Greeks were held back by otherpowers too. This time you have angered and annoyed both Russians and Americans and they will not allow you to do as you please in Cyprus and the Mediterranean. They said Putin talked with Trump so that Putin gives Syria and Assad to USA now so that Trump gives Putin whatever he gives concerning Ukraine when he comes to power. Wasn't Trump the one who recognised officially Jerusalem as the capital and the Golan Heights as Israeli ground back then? This time too Trump will see the situation in Syria and the Middle East with Israeli eyes and whatever Israel wants Israel gets. Like an independent Kurdistan as a Christmas gift for the Turks.

Not a bad analysis tbh since it does follow the same narrative of many reporters who clearly stated that the US is prohibiting/threatening any forces from going east of the euphrates

As they said, israel and the US promised kurdistan an indepemdent state in order to counter Turkey's growing strength. Israeli channels are also reporting on how important the formation of radical kurdistan state in order to counter the greatest threat in the region, reportedly Turkey, but they said ISIS to avoid triggering people in addition to divide Syria forever so that they can never ever think about threatening Israel

Reports arising showing Rising discontent within the rebel ranks due to the fact that no operation has been announced for Raqqa or Der ez Zor even though the pro-Turkey tribal people are fighting alone and are being butchered by the PKK

Joulani is weak, all the advanced weaponry that he should have gained from Assad have been obliterated and Israel will swallow as much land as possible from Syria for both their internal security/politics as well as their Grand Israel belief

Trump is the most pro-Israel leader that will ever govern the US. It is reported that he wanna retreat from Syria, but with the neo-con warhawks that he nominated and Israeli lobby that own him by the balls, whatever Israel wants will be given to them on a silver plate regardless of the cost

 

[AWP]

Israel army are just 30 Km away from Damascus , way beyond the EEZ line

maybe within a week they will enter the capital

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It’s 25 Km now

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1866378200869134642

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Hate to say it but he is right.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1866028980572229642

 

[AWP]

Breaking: Israeli Army Radio, citing a senior security source: We destroyed the capabilities of the Syrian army in the largest air operation we have carried out in our history

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1866380197034914027

 

[Saithan]

Well unless Turkey does a rapid deployment of soldiers Israel is going to be allowed to grab more land.
technically conquering Damascus means winning the war, and the west probably don't want it be known that Syrians won it back themselves, but will give technical victory to Israel.

 

[AWP]

Big news

Israeli military official: We plan to seize a buffer zone inside #Syria and some points of strategic importance

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1866403727688483320

 

[Lool]

Big news

Israeli military official: We plan to seize a buffer zone inside #Syria and some points of strategic importance

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1866403727688483320

Who would have thought so..... (being sarcastic)

 

[dBSPL]

At some points, the regime's soldiers' communication has been so blunted by jamming that the chain of command has been broken, and some soldiers have taken off their uniforms and fled because they thought the army had completely lost the war. Still new armored battalions continue to appear abandoned in vacant lots. I am sure this will be the subject of many academic studies in the future. The operational model of the revolutionary forces, and the organization and structuring of their troops, when the parts that individually appear weak come together in a good model (*there are psychological factors such as weak staff capacity and corruption in regime side, also low morale and lack of will to fight in the military etc), the asymmetric side can have a devastating effect against the regular counter-order.

 

[Saithan]

At some points, the regime's soldiers' communication has been so blunted by jamming that the chain of command has been broken, and some soldiers have taken off their uniforms and fled because they thought the army had completely lost the war. Still new armored battalions continue to appear abandoned in vacant lots. I am sure this will be the subject of many academic studies in the future. The operational model of the revolutionary forces, and the organization and structuring of their troops, when the parts that individually appear weak come together in a good model (*there are psychological factors such as weak staff capacity and corruption in regime side, also low morale and lack of will to fight in the military etc), the asymmetric side can have a devastating effect against the regular counter-order.

Which is why it's important to have decentralized resistance pockets, and chain of command to follow if communication breaks down. Hence all who makes it as an officer is important as they're all part of the decision making body.

It's horrible how the whole military structure caved in, but that is the proof of having military institutions being independent from governing bodies.

 

[dBSPL]

MIT conducts airstrikes with UCAVs on some points on Berkel Hill. The SNA is also just a couple kilometers away, around Karakozak. This is the most important base for PKK terrorists in that area and is largely an underground base.

Map, showing the estimated routes

Sight

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Big news

Israeli military official: We plan to seize a buffer zone inside #Syria and some points of strategic importance

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1866403727688483320

Israel will definitely occupy part of Syria, possibly right up to the border with Turkey. This must be prevented at all costs. Either Turkey must consider a massive invasion of Northern Syria + Northeastern Syria or it will lose everything it has built up over the years in one fell swoop.

Secondly, an acceleration of the arms industry must be considered.
They have to work even harder and faster, China has already smelled the fuse and is massively arming itself.
Before the Americans transfer half the semiconductor industry to the USA with the Chip Act, China will take over Taiwan by 2025/26 at the latest.
It is snowing that we are heading for a 3rd WORLD WAR.

 

[dBSPL]

In '74, Israel withdrew from some of the territories it invaded and receiving a guarantee from Hafez al-Assad that there would be no real initiative in the Turkmen Golan to take back, which Israel continues to occupy.

With the fall of the Assad regime, they re-invaded the area they had abandoned in '74, assuming that the status-quo in the Turkmen Golan was jeopardized. This area poses a major security vulnerability for the capital Damascus, especially since it includes the Hermon Heights.

As part of these measures, all military capability, which was not considered a threat during the Assad regime in Syria, was destroyed only 3 days after the Syrian revolution, before a government was even formed.

All this is clear terrorism act. The consequences of lawlessness, and the arrogance coming with the US protection shield.

But my personal opinion is that they opened their hands too early. This appetite for more land grabbing will produce very troubling consequences for them.

edit: '74 agreement

 

[Saithan]

In '74, Israel withdrew from some of the territories it invaded and receiving a guarantee from Hafez al-Assad that there would be no real initiative in the Turkmen Golan to take back, which Israel continues to occupy.

With the fall of the Assad regime, they re-invaded the area they had abandoned in '74, assuming that the status-quo in the Golan was jeopardized. This area poses a major security vulnerability for the capital Damascus, especially since it includes the Hermon Heights.

As part of these measures, all military capability, which was not considered a threat during the Assad regime in Syria, was destroyed only 3 days after the Syrian revolution, before a government was even formed.

All this is clear terrorism. The consequences of lawlessness, and the arrogance coming with the US protection shield.

But my personal opinion is that they opened their hands too early. This appetite for more land grabbing will produce very troubling consequences for them.

They have destroyed all armed defense capabilities of Syria, so unless the new government of Syria has oil, gas and capital, rebuilding their armed forces to anything but what they have now is going to be difficult.

I believe the US will do it utmost to keep the oil from the Syrian hands in the hands of the PKK terrorist organisation so that Syria doesn't have capability or money to rebuild and rearm.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

As long as they use US technology and the US has their backs economically and militarily. They could even attack Turkey without any problems and the West would sell it to their population as a defensive war.
The only way to get out of this trap is to develop Turkey with high technology and arm it to the teeth in all areas, navy, army and air force + police/gendarmerie, cybersecurity and
Reconnaissance/communication Satellites.
But this must be done with at least 20-30% more speed. I am serious the conflict Turkey <-> Israel is realistic they are the only ones who could stand up to them.

 

[Ryder]

I said this before as Turkiye grows as a regional power.

Arab countries, Israel and Iran are going to feel the heat.

Turkiye and Israel are on a crash course collision to clash in the future. Whether directly or indirectly.

Lets not forget how they worked behind the scenes in Ww1 and in the Turkish independance war against us.

Turkiye needs to have a game plan.