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Breaking , Erdogan issued a warning to both Israel and PKK terrorist

Erdogan: Any person or entity that tries to attack #Syria will find the Syrian people in front of them, and we will stand by the Syrian people

Erdogan: There are extremist groups with racist ideology that are supported by major powers to attack #Syria and Palestine, and this is unacceptable

Also said: (In Syria) God willing, terrorist organizations such as DAESH and PKK/PYD in other parts of the country will be crushed as soon as possible.
 

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Arab demography east of the Euphrates.
The green areas are almost entirely Arab tribes. Darker shades are mixed Arab, Turkish, and others areas and lighter shades are areas with very few Arabs density.

Controlling this whole area with an ethnically fascist and seperatist narco-terrorist organization is really the most idiotic thing to do. As soon as there was a revolution in Syria, it was obvious that the people's hatred would turn to the Kurds.


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I should add with apologies that when I said Kurds in the last sentence, I was not referring to the Kurdish people, but to this American pawn who claims to act on behalf of the Kurds. Because the Pkk exerts the greatest pressure on Kurds who do not think like it, for example, it has strangled the ENKS in Syria and many Kurds have been killed or thrown into prisons.

This terrorist organization is a burden on the Syrian people, as a subcontractor of invaders and as a whore ready to lie under anyone to harm the interests of the Syrian people, it will soon be thrown away.
 
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Also said: (In Syria) God willing, terrorist organizations such as DAESH and PKK/PYD in other parts of the country will be crushed as soon as possible.

better to focus on PKK since their ultimate goal is extremely dangerous, declaring new Kurdistan will send this region to a full war.

Unlike ISIS which is an excuse for the US to do her dirty job
 

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better to focus on PKK since their ultimate goal is extremely dangerous, declaring new Kurdistan will send this region to a full war.

Unlike ISIS which is an excuse for the US to do her dirty job
It is about reassuring the West that Turkey will crush ISIS if it comes back up again, thus neutralising ISIS as an excuse.
 

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People carry the bodies for burial who were massacred by PKK terrorists just for protesting in Deir ez-Zor:
I think there is no need to describe the anger in the public. Pkk released the protesters yesterday by issuing a general amnesty, but fear is useless, you will drown in the sea of Arabs.
 

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Putin's aide Peskov: - "Assad's withdrawal from the process of fulfilling his duties as head of Syria is his personal decision."

That is, Russia does not believe that Assad is no longer the head of the Syrian state! After all, Assad never announced his resignation.
This means that Putin decided to put the Syrian iron on the stove, next to the Ukrainian iron - Yanukovych. Let it warm up. Maybe it will be needed :unsure:
 

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Putin's aide Peskov: - "Assad's withdrawal from the process of fulfilling his duties as head of Syria is his personal decision."

That is, Russia does not believe that Assad is no longer the head of the Syrian state! After all, Assad never announced his resignation.
This means that Putin decided to put the Syrian iron on the stove, next to the Ukrainian iron - Yanukovych. Let it warm up. Maybe it will be needed :unsure:

The more the Russians talk the more you realise they have turned into the sick man of eurasia.
 

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If they had been smarter, they'd cut Assad earlier and openly supported the rebels, that might have given them a chance to retain one base. just a chance, but it'd mean Russia would have manned the AD systems and possibly provided weapons to the new army in the future.

Russia staying even as a consultant would have meant Israel wouldn't have driven the tanks all the way in as they did. Remember the rebels said they weren't hostile to Russia while they were freeing Syria.
 

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Israel is not going to attempt to occupy Damascus. They're taking advantage of the Russian withdrawal in combination with Assad's fall, to destroy the caches and storehouses of Russian weapons and equipment. It's hard to blame them given that they are unsure about how Syria will emerge from the shitshow that is the Syrian civil war and they don't want the party that takes over to have significant access to capable weapons in the case that they are unfriendly towards Israel.

They'll tighten their hold on Golan Heights and exist in the buffer zone for some time, but they're not going to try to take Damascus.
 

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If they had been smarter, they'd cut Assad earlier and openly supported the rebels, that might have given them a chance to retain one base. just a chance, but it'd mean Russia would have manned the AD systems and possibly provided weapons to the new army in the future.

Russia staying even as a consultant would have meant Israel wouldn't have driven the tanks all the way in as they did. Remember the rebels said they weren't hostile to Russia while they were freeing Syria.

Every step of the way concerning Syria all the players have held Turkiye in contempt, ignored her concerns and her military potential. Each and every time they have ultimately paid for that arrogance.

2020 idlib retaliation was probably a prime example of this. Russian/Iranian/Assadists forces were looking to take the last rebel held position. Meanwhile the US/EU were threatening us not to intervene. If you remember erdogan had busses taking refugees to the border forcing them to cross to create pressure the EU. What happened was the pioneering use of armed drones. 4 years later those groups swept Assad away.

Russia never learned from this and got done over by Turks in Libya, Azerbaijan and our drones were critical in stopping the early advance of Russian forces in Ukraine. Turkiye turned Putin into an international joke. Now when i say that the Russians have become the sick man of eurasia i dont think its an exaggeration. All the Russians had to do was take Turkish security concerns into account and things could have been so much different for them.
 

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Every step of the way concerning Syria all the players have held Turkiye in contempt, ignored her concerns and her military potential. Each and every time they have ultimately paid for that arrogance.

2020 idlib retaliation was probably a prime example of this. Russian/Iranian/Assadists forces were looking to take the last rebel held position. Meanwhile the US/EU were threatening us not to intervene. If you remember erdogan had busses taking refugees to the border forcing them to cross to create pressure the EU. What happened was the pioneering use of armed drones. 4 years later those groups swept Assad away.

Russia never learned from this and got done over by Turks in Libya, Azerbaijan and our drones were critical in stopping the early advance of Russian forces in Ukraine. Turkiye turned Putin into an international joke. Now when i say that the Russians have become the sick man of eurasia i dont think its an exaggeration. All the Russians had to do was take Turkish security concerns into account and things could have been so much different for them.
Yes, but my point is that these rebels will need to redevelop their country, and they will need someone on neutral terms to provide them with some "high" end defense equipment. As it is, I doubt Türkiye will provide them, and no western nation will provide them, that kinda leaves, Russia, and China. Consider China it's position they don't have anything to win by doing so, and risk sanctions, while Russia already unders Sanctions would have been willing to provide, if they were allowed to retain a base for their operation in Africa.
 

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Israel is not going to attempt to occupy Damascus. They're taking advantage of the Russian withdrawal in combination with Assad's fall, to destroy the caches and storehouses of Russian weapons and equipment. It's hard to blame them given that they are unsure about how Syria will emerge from the shitshow that is the Syrian civil war and they don't want the party that takes over to have significant access to capable weapons in the case that they are unfriendly towards Israel.

They'll tighten their hold on Golan Heights and exist in the buffer zone for some time, but they're not going to try to take Damascus.
Really? They are already exerting military pressure on the city, what did you expect, Israeli tanks to enter the streets of a city of 2 million people?

There is no law, there is no obstruction from the Western countries or any international mechanism, Israel can deploy as many troops as it wants and install any system it wants. They have already occupied the hills with a bird's eye view of Damascus, which can be set up forward posts or artillery batallions whenever military threat needed.

There is no need to hide behind any excuse, we are talking about a piracy that takes advantage of the revolution in a country whose army has been disbanded.
 

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, and China. Consider China it's position they don't have anything to win by doing so, and risk sanctions, while Russia already unders Sanctions would have been willing to

I suspect within 10 years we will be able to supply the rebels(new government) with whatever they need. Our first point of concern is north syria. After that its in our interest to reorganise the Syrian state into a friendly and fully functioning nation. This will be our security against the greater isreal agenda in the region. And in a way we will become the security for Syria against Isreal.
 

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Really? They are already exerting military pressure on the city, what did you expect, Israeli tanks to enter the streets of a city of 2 million people?

There is no law, there is no obstruction from the Western countries or any international mechanism, Israel can deploy as many troops as it wants and install any system it wants. They have already occupied the hills with a bird's eye view of Damascus, which can be set up forward posts or artillery batallions whenever military threat needed.

There is no need to hide behind any excuse, we are talking about a piracy that takes advantage of the revolution in a country whose army has been disbanded.

Assad could have been removed at any moment by the anglo-american-isreali axis at any point during this war. But they didnt want to, they needed the minority sectarian sect to stay in power so that the nation destroys itself, divides itself. Only Turkiye cared about the sovereignty of the state. Even the Assadists were happy to cede half the country to the american backed pkk as long as it was against Turkiye too. Even as Assad fled like a typical coward, instead of making a deal that takes Turkish security concerns into account he fled the nation and opened syria up to more Isreali transgressions.

Naturally now Assad fled, the Isrealis are going to be opportunistic about it. But the long term solution to isreali transgressions will be for the new syrian state to seek support from Turkiye. The whole iranian axis of resistance was no more then a facade, an illusion that played into isreali hands. Allowed them to play the victim, allowed them to justify their wars of aggression, meanwhile the "axis of resistance" in 30 years of "fighting" Isreal achieved nothing.
 

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People carry the bodies for burial who were massacred by PKK terrorists just for protesting in Deir ez-Zor:
I think there is no need to describe the anger in the public. Pkk released the protesters yesterday by issuing a general amnesty, but fear is useless, you will drown in the sea of Arabs.
And the million dollars question is...... when will the SNA start to take arms against the kurds or will they watch until all of the arabs in raqqa, der ez zor, and kobani are dead?
 

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Yes, but my point is that these rebels will need to redevelop their country, and they will need someone on neutral terms to provide them with some "high" end defense equipment. As it is, I doubt Türkiye will provide them, and no western nation will provide them, that kinda leaves, Russia, and China. Consider China it's position they don't have anything to win by doing so, and risk sanctions, while Russia already unders Sanctions would have been willing to provide, if they were allowed to retain a base for their operation in Africa.
China could help economically.
 

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Really? They are already exerting military pressure on the city, what did you expect, Israeli tanks to enter the streets of a city of 2 million people?

There is no law, there is no obstruction from the Western countries or any international mechanism, Israel can deploy as many troops as it wants and install any system it wants. They have already occupied the hills with a bird's eye view of Damascus, which can be set up forward posts or artillery batallions whenever military threat needed.

There is no need to hide behind any excuse, we are talking about a piracy that takes advantage of the revolution in a country whose army has been disbanded.
The Israelis can just go Gaza style and drop twice the amount of bombs that was dropped in WW2 into damascus within 7 months and no Syrian will be left alive. Israel can take control of Damascus at any time with their sugar daddy, the USA, providing high-explosive bombs every single day

It is honestly quite ironic when people called me delusional when I said that if Israel is left unaccountable, they will sooner or later reach the Turkish borders. Now the Israeli army is only 20 km from Damascus and with the whole air, land, and naval forces of Syria destroyed, no one can stop the Israeli Air force from turning Damascus into a pile of ashes

The problem with pro-Israel accounts is that they believe that Israel wanna annex and rule the inhabitants of these lands which is wrong; Israel wants to annex and obliterate the indiginous people of these lands to oblivion so that they can do whatever they want with it, change history to fit their narrative as they see fit etc....
 
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Yes, but my point is that these rebels will need to redevelop their country, and they will need someone on neutral terms to provide them with some "high" end defense equipment. As it is, I doubt Türkiye will provide them, and no western nation will provide them, that kinda leaves, Russia, and China. Consider China it's position they don't have anything to win by doing so, and risk sanctions, while Russia already unders Sanctions would have been willing to provide, if they were allowed to retain a base for their operation in Africa.
They will highly likely retain their military base in Syria tbh

It would be the epitome of foolishness to kick Russia out when Israel just invaded Syrian lands and both the jews and US are aiding for an independent Kurdistan

Syria's new govt will probably strike a deal with Russia.... their support in exchange for staying at the base and Russia will agree since the removal of Russians from the base will signal a catastrophe for Russian influence in Africa
 
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