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TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

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Tolga Özbek instead claims first delivery date is not 2027 but 2026.

"Following today's news that the HÜRJET will be delivered in 2027, I spoke to TAI sources. Although the SSB reports indicated that the delivery date was 2027, this date was brought forward to 2026. TAI attaches great importance to this date. Because 2026 is very important for the Turkish Air Force, as well as for exports.
In our interview with General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu at Farnborough, he gave the date 2026."

Hürjet delivery to HvKK is expected in last quarter of 2026 or Q1 of 2027.


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"Turkish Aerospace General Manager Mehmet Demiroglu says the company’s Hurjet could become the training platform for NATO nations.

In the coming weeks, Turkish Aerospace is expected to sign an agreement with Airbus in Spain to work together on customizing the aircraft for Spanish needs.

Given the current state of transatlantic geopolitics and the push by European countries to look closer to home, Hurjet becomes one of two trainer options available, the other being the Leonardo M-346."


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TAI will showcase a full size Hürjet mockup at Spanish defence fair Feindef on May 12 with TAI GM also being present. Could we see a TAI/Airbus MoU there?

"Turkish company TAI will exhibit a full-size model of the Hürjet, the leading candidate to replace the Spanish F-5, at Feindef.
 

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How many engines for hürjet did we have. I am not sure the amount we imagine is going to be delivered. Tbh I expect delivery of very few and then the waiting game, again.
 

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TAI will showcase a full size Hürjet mockup at Spanish defence fair Feindef on May 12 with TAI GM also being present. Could we see a TAI/Airbus MoU there?

"Turkish company TAI will exhibit a full-size model of the Hürjet, the leading candidate to replace the Spanish F-5, at Feindef.
Leaked photos from before Feindef-25. Fair will start on the tomorrow on the 12th.


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According to InfoDefensa, Ala 23 is currently assigned 19 F-5Ms used to train pilots as part of the Fighter and Attack Phase of their training to become Eurofighter and F-18 (Spain doesn’t use the F/A-19 designation) pilots. The report mentions that 28 or 30 new aircraft might be acquired, with a budget of €275 million ($309.5 million).

InfoDefensa further highlights that the choice of the future trainer has not been confirmed yet, although Hurjet appears to be the most likely winner. Additionally, the service’s Chief of Staff General Francisco Braco has also flown on the Turkish aircraft.
 

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Could be original mockup but still, there are some changes. The mockup being in Airbus booth already tells us external changes are on the way.
 

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Exclusive Avion Revue International

Spain signs the Hürjet as the new advanced trainer for the Spanish Air Force.

As a culmination to an excellent edition 2025 of the International Defense Fair (FEINDEF), in which we have been able to participate and observe numerous technological innovations, tomorrow, Wednesday, May 14, an event of special relevance for the Spanish Armed Forces will be held.

In this event will take place the official signing of the Hürjet as the new Spanish trainer, thus replacing the F-5 of the 23rd Wing in Talavera.

This announcement represents a significant step in the training and capabilities of military pilots in Spain, as well as excellent news for both the Spanish Air Force and the Spanish defense industry. News in development that we will be detailing in later extensions.
 

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Let's see the signed documents first.
I'm expecting a Spanish local participation and development award to be signed rather than a deal between TAI and Spanish MoD. They will probably develop a Spanish Hürjet which will then enter its tests to be given the award. Let's see.

Reading the article:

"This event will mark the signing of the MoU as a framework for future collaboration between Spanish industry and the Air Force's new advanced trainer program.

According to various industry sources, the Spanish program would consist of at least two phases. The first phase, apparently already finalized, would include aircraft produced entirely in Turkey but certified by the Spanish industry.

A second batch is pending finalization, and its characteristics regarding Spanish systems and the participation of Spanish industry are currently being negotiated."

So both a direct sale and the signing of developing a Spanish version, that's great news.
 
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The Spanish market is open for HÜRJET. I expect that total orders worldwide for this aircraft will reach 400.
Based on what, exactly? 400 would make it one of the best selling jets of all time, what makes you think it'll reach those numbers?
 

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I'm thinking, "Yeah right, TuAF has ordered how many as of now ?"
 

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I'm thinking, "Yeah right, TuAF has ordered how many as of now ?"
TAI General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu:
We are already building 16 airplanes for the Turkish Air Force. I can say that our serial production has also started. We are expecting another serious order from the Turkish Air Force. We hope that it will be finalized within this year.
 

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I think up to a hundred because of the engines they ordered from GE

TAI General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu:
We are already building 16 airplanes for the Turkish Air Force. I can say that our serial production has also started. We are expecting another serious order from the Turkish Air Force. We hope that it will be finalized within this year.
I know there has been some talks, but I don't remember the sale of 90+ engines being approved by the senate/house. (notice the amount is not mentioned anywhere as I can see).


What I also remember is that around 20 engines could be bought due to amount being small and not enough to warrant senate/houses approval. When Hürjet first prototype was going to take shape/form.

I think it was because it was going to be a used for trainerjet / prototypes that is was possible to get up to 20 or so.

So unless they deliver more than 20, I am thinking that's what they will produce and not more.


EDIT: I did ask Copilot for an update on the goddamn acquisition letter, and it's still being processed in the US.

The approval process for Türkiye's request to purchase F404 engines from the US is currently progressing through the US Congress. According to recent updates, there have been positive signals, and no significant issues are anticipated at this stage
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I understand your preference for direct access to the approval process. Unfortunately, specific details and documents related to defense procurement, such as Türkiye's request for F404 engines, are typically not publicly accessible due to their sensitive nature
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