TR HÜRJET-Advanced Jet Trainer/ Light attack aircraft

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Under the coordination of Airbus, we signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Spanish companies for our Supersonic Jet Training Aircraft HÜRJET.
I'm pretty sure aside from Eurofying Hürjet, this will also help us in developing the aircraft furthermore for our use. 16 Spanish companies is the given number. It's a near complete coupling of Spanish aerodefence sector to Hürjet.

But no order from the Spanish MoD just yet.

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I'm pretty sure aside from Eurofying Hürjet, this will also help us in developing the aircraft furthermore for our use. 16 Spanish companies is the given number. It's a near complete coupling of Spanish aerodefence sector to Hürjet.

But no order from the Spanish MoD just yet.
It can be supplied if Spain orders (thinking of US engine)?

How well is it likely to sell against T-50?
 

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(thinking of US engine)
Doubt it will be a issue for 8 out of 10 contracts. T129 was a contender against AH-1Z in both Philippines and Nigeria, beat AH-1Z in Philippines, got an equal contract against it in Nigeria. They won't make a fuss against a NATO ally like Spain.

How well is it likely to sell against T-50?
T-50 is a proven, mature platform with decades under its belt but have failed to get traction for legacy operators. They are ahead of Hürjet in terms of development, but T-50 is not even considered yet by legacy operators like UK for example. Hürjet is a much more performative aircraft, much more modern too with its development being tailored for 5th gen training duties.

Can't comment on numbers, that's just pure guesswork, but I do think Hürjet will see more successes in NATO, becoming the trainer of choice for many. Brits for the life of them can't make a good purchase in the last 3 decades so not so certain there. If they do smarten up, Red Arrows will be flying with Hürjet in 10 years. Cooperation is there, begging to be taking.
 

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I think, if this project comes to the fruition, it would be one of the rare intelligent moves from Europe.
Years ago , they weren't intelligent enough to back German MAKO project, hence situation is at it is
Why spend years and billions, if you can come and benefit from the project?
 

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Spanish industry, led by Airbus, and Turkish Aerospace have signed a memorandum of understanding to identify and develop potential areas of collaboration on the ‘Advanced jet trainer aircraft, Integrated Training System - Combat (ITS-C)’ programme, which aims to replace the F-5M trainer aircraft of the
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This collaboration would leverage Airbus' design, manufacturing, in-service support and training expertise with Turkish Aerospace's innovative design of the HÜRJET, an advanced single-engine, tandem-seat, supersonic jet trainer aircraft with advanced capabilities.

This agreement also seeks to nationalise the integrated training system and strengthen the Spanish national industry, to reinforce defence ties between Spain and Türkiye, and to meet the challenges posed by the growing operational demand for modern training aircraft.

 

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Spain has already been supplying some components for Hürjet for some time.

I specified 400 for HÜRJET yesterday. This number does not include TURAF orders.Access to American engines will not be a problem, but production speed will be an issue on the part of TUSAS.

HÜRJET will be a master key for the entire defense industry of Turkey.
 

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As always, I like these maps of yours, but they are simply wrong. Qatar didn't order Hürjet, neither did Spain, yet. Total order count for Hürjet still sits at 16 for HvKK.
They sure didn't, this map is provisional.

But anyone is welcome to suggest future sales prospects.
 

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They sure didn't, this map is provisional.

But anyone is welcome to suggest future sales prospects.
Then why do you post it in the first place I mean I could think of Katar buying hürjet as a trainer but that just gossip at the moment the only ones we know for sure are Spain and turkey only the numbers aren’t clear yet
 

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Then why do you post it in the first place I mean I could think of Katar buying hürjet as a trainer but that just gossip at the moment the only ones we know for sure are Spain and turkey only the numbers aren’t clear yet
Considering the kill switch talk in Europe and in the world anybody maybe looking for a non American plane at the moment. The engine is questionable but still better than having the whole plane American. Map is updated.
 

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Spain has already been supplying some components for Hürjet for some time.

I specified 400 for HÜRJET yesterday. This number does not include TURAF orders.Access to American engines will not be a problem, but production speed will be an issue on the part of TUSAS.

HÜRJET will be a master key for the entire defense industry of Turkey.
I'll just quote myself here:

Based on what, exactly? 400 would make it one of the best selling jets of all time, what makes you think it'll reach those numbers?
 

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  • TUSAŞ signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with Airbus and 15 Spanish companies.
  • Airbus was selected as the national coordinator by the Spanish Ministry of Defense.
  • The project has two phases:
    • Production will begin at TUSAŞ.
    • In the next phase, part of the production will be transferred to Spain.
    • The Spanish configuration will be produced with local subsystems.
  • Industrialization plan: To be completed within 2 months.
  • Contract signing: 3rd or 4th quarter of 2025.
  • Deliveries: To Turkey and Spain by 2028.
  • Turkey's first manned jet export.
  • Important step in expanding to NATO and European countries.
  • Has supersonic training capability.
  • More cost-effective and modern compared to competitors.
  • HÜRJET beat competitors such as the US (Boeing), Italy (Leonardo), and South Korea (KAI).


 

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I think TUSAS should go for F414 engines for the Hürjet light fighter version. When Baykar 20k engine becomes available switch to Baykar's engine.
 

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Isn't the 2027 date for the combat version and not the trainer version. Trainer version is expected in 2026 AFAIK.
 

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Yes, and having Spain alongside us for LCA might either take this calendar slightly backwards but more importantly have it standing on stronger legs
 

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Why is the US coloured? It has got T-7A. I don't think that UK should be coloured either. There seems to be an interest in all GCAP countries ordering an M-346 optimised for GCAP training. If not, UK startup company Aeralis could be given the contract for a UK trainer.

Nothing decided for the UK except that a Hawk replacement decision is becoming urgent.
 
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