T--7A gets delayed again and again, and Hürjet predecessor was in the same tender back then, so a limited number maybe considered.
Uk wanting Hürjet naval is a stretch considering they are currently ordering more f35b for Airforce and Navy but as a simple trainer its possible but i think they wanted to build their own less capable trainer. Perhaps once Baykars engine comes available we will se Hürjet 2 as two engine design (Turkish f18) to replace F16 and be the low cost option for the airforce together Eurofighters and kaan and f16 block 70
I don't know about carrier operations but I don't understand how a conventional trainer would be useful to train F-35B pilots on British carriers. I see F-35B landed vertically.
I think F-35Bs will be retired. It is a failed product. UK will continue with F-35C.
What? UK MoD will buy J-35 before they spend billions and years on converting the carriers to CATOBAR. That's not happening.
I think some kind of EMALS will be installed on QE. It is a miracle to sustain 30-40% readiness with F-35B. F-35B is not a Harrier. It is a failed product; even the US Navy can't maintain them and is fed up with problems and malfunctions. It basically breaks down. F-35C is decent and has a similar readiness rate compared to F-35A.
I agree with the first part of your sentence.
I disagree. I think that F-35C would cost at least 3 billion dollars just for conversion to the EMALS catapult system for 2 carriers.
Failed products don't get ever growing orders. It's now operated by 3 navies, ordered by Japan and will probably also be ordered by Singapore and by Spain in the future as well. Only non American aligned navies with a carrier not using it will likely be France and Turkey. It is a great platform in a great package with teething issues, like all F-35s. F-35B is a marvel of engineering. It's a 5th gen stealth STOVL fighter, no other like it exists. Harrier couldn't ever do what a contemporary fighter like Mirage 3 could do.
There is only one F-35C operator and it's USN. Their new trainer requirements to replace the T-45 doesn't even include landing to and being operated from carriers. Hürjet is set to compete in that tender with SNC. If pigs start to fly and Hürjet wins, it won't land on an American carrier. We shouldn't expect it would be much different for a future British one.
QE class ships were originally designed with a possible upgrade to CATOBAR down the line. But, house reports and further studies show that nearly all CATOBAR studies were forgotten about by 2004. It was sold as a minor upgrade worth less than 500M for two ships. Last talks from 2010-12 show it at 2 billion per ship. British armed forces are being forced to choose between upgrading their Trident SLBMs and buying new F-35As due to budget issues. Newly released budget talks for up to 2030 are not any better. They don't have the money for such a program. They will take their F-35Bs, say thank you and be happy that they are even allowed to have them. Their latest studies in that "Project Ark Royal" all came down to operating the Mojave from QE, that's it.
I think if we can get f35s than maybe the Americans would be ready to sell us their catapult tech that way navy could order f35C. But depends on the price they offerI would not be so sure about Turkey btw.
I think if the F-35 situation is fixed and F-35A are ordered we will see the Navy take the F-35B into realistic consideration for the future MUG.
Bro, how's the world tour going?
Those countries are candidate countries that were known to be close to buying or are looking into buying or simply who need to buy a trainer or a light combat aircraft. Simply put their names are cited as candidates for the Korean plane. Not all of them are included, I included them selectively. Otherwise there are like twice as many candidates. If you also factor in the upcoming Baykar engine the list can go to as far as the number of export drone users. So it will be exciting to map them. But this whole thing can take like a decade. So the world tour will be broadcast in seasons and episodes.Bro, how's the world tour going?
From these countries they only buy Hürjet as Qatar (friendly country), Spain (partner).
Qatar operates pretty new Hawks and M346s. Hawks were delivered only few years ago and are based in UK in another joint RAF/Qatar squadron, while the Masters are based in Italy within IFTS. It's a small country with a small air force, they offload a big part of their training to others. They won't order Hürjet anytime soon, they have no need for it.
Hürjet LCA can be attractive, with Turkish everything.
For a country with near infinite money and tiny manpower pool, any kind of small fighter is meaningless. Kaan sure, Hürjet LCA, no way.
Poland, Malaysia, Indonesia have chosen South Korea as their training jet, orders have been placed and deliveries are being made. (The last delivery will be to Poland in 2028)
Qatar does not order according to its needs, if it orders according to its needs, it does not need to buy airplanes for 20 years.
