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[Ripley]

I used to accept the prequels as canon, lately not so much.....they dont make the Jedi good+competent enough tbh (given the grip and totalitarian oppressive power the Sith have in original trilogy and Jedi in slow build up phase with rebels that sets up what the prequel ought to be).

On prequels, i can only stand them as they show us the transformation of Anakin. It had to be done, honestly. Could've been fantastic but wasted due to shitty writing and story arcs.
Sequels, though.. After i watched them, i can understand why Middle Age people got so edgy when they see sacrilegious stuff and start throwing rocks at things

So the jedi clearly arent good enough morally and basic competency wise the way its written (among other issues, but this is a glaring one).

The fall to dark side could have been written a whole lot better basically, it would need something precipitated bigly by Palpatine (like say a jedi civil war or major factional strife, Dooku kind of stuff but far bigger etc)....rather than totally avoidable + random crap.

Clone Wars!!!

That animation series was probably the best gap filler on Jedi philosophical stand point and how they lost it, how the light side blended (even faded at times) into the dark side. That show was one of the best SW writing ever and one of my favorites, too. Not too mention, creating a real organic SW heroine with best character development ever, Ahsoka Tano.

 

[No Name]

On prequels, i can only stand them as they show us the transformation of Anakin. It had to be done, honestly. Could've been fantastic but wasted due to shitty writing and story arcs.
Sequels, though.. After i watched them, i can understand why Middle Age people got so edgy when they see sacrilegious stuff and start throwing rocks at things



Clone Wars!!!

That animation series was probably the best gap filler on Jedi philosophical stand point and how they lost it, how the light side blended (even faded at times) into the dark side. That show was one of the best SW writing ever and one of my favorites, too. Not too mention, creating a real organic SW heroine with best character development ever, Ahsoka Tano.

I strongly disagree with this. The Clone Wars show ruined the era. The Original Clone Wars multimedia project was far superior to the cartoon.

The multimedia project explored how the Jedi perceive the war, how individual members feel about the corruption of the Republic that they were raised to serve, and it revealed that local planetary defence forces participate in the wars.

Although I agree that Ahsoka is a far better character than most Disney era heroines and heroes, I disagree that she is a good character. Mostly, the narrative of the show overly favours her to the point that the show character assassinates other long-established characters, such as Barriss Offee (if you want to know what I mean, go read the Medstar duology, it is like if MASH was set in Star Wars). Not to mention, the show doesn't let other characters rebut her, as seen when she wanted to start a war on Mandalore and got mad at Obi-Wan for trying to defend the capital of the Republic, which has way more people on it than Mandalore.

 

[Ripley]

I strongly disagree with this. The Clone Wars show ruined the era. The Original Clone Wars multimedia project was far superior to the cartoon.

The multimedia project explored how the Jedi perceive the war, how individual members feel about the corruption of the Republic that they were raised to serve, and it revealed that local planetary defence forces participate in the wars.

Although I agree that Ahsoka is a far better character than most Disney era heroines and heroes, I disagree that she is a good character. Mostly, the narrative of the show overly favours her to the point that the show character assassinates other long-established characters, such as Barriss Offee (if you want to know what I mean, go read the Medstar duology, it is like if MASH was set in Star Wars). Not to mention, the show doesn't let other characters rebut her, as seen when she wanted to start a war on Mandalore and got mad at Obi-Wan for trying to defend the capital of the Republic, which has way more people on it than Mandalore.

She is a good character because she showed a good character arc from a whiny idealist hot blood teenage to a war weary disillusioned grown up with many mistakes on the road. And yes, maybe she was not a good character but thats not a problem for me ‘cause she was only “human” struggling with her defects.

 

[hugh]

herkes gider mersin'e, ben giderim tersine

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946570851974832544

the official account, no less. they're falling out of grace . China will pick this country clean.

 

[Nilgiri]

Clone Wars!!!

That animation series was probably the best gap filler on Jedi philosophical stand point and how they lost it, how the light side blended (even faded at times) into the dark side. That show was one of the best SW writing ever and one of my favorites, too. Not too mention, creating a real organic SW heroine with best character development ever, Ahsoka Tano.

I quite enjoyed the animated clone wars for sure. They got more time to get into the action and character development from that....compared to a movie you only have so much time.

The 2D cartoon clone wars (before the 3D animated one) I often refer to that as just "clone wars" too.

They made dooku, grievous really super powerful in it (though it was fun to see mace windu totally wreck grievous with force crush in 1 second lol and grievous had to flee haha).

But they also made the jedi super super powerful compared to any other series or movie IMO, like crazy level stupid of power haha, like find me where mace windu was this powerful in the movie, entire armies and ships wiped out like they're swiss cheese lmao.....kit fisto with this level of power wouldnt have succumbed to palpatine in under a cpl seconds either, in fact could have taken palpatine on himself sheesh, big ole massive force bubbles lol:

 

[TR_123456]

herkes gider Mersin'e, ben giderim tersine

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946570851974832544

the official account, no less. they're falling out of grace . China will pick this country clean.

You got a problem with Mersin?

 

[Ripley]

You got a problem with Mersin?

Sheesh
Trouble brewing up.

 

[TR_123456]

Sheesh
Trouble brewing up.

Yes,i will kill everyone talking bad about Mersin.