TR Navy Navy|News & Discussions

[Radko]

Unlikely for both.

TF2000 is a decade away for FOC. Wish they had gone for an in between design, using

So you expect 7 years of sea trials for TF-2000

 

[Sanchez]

So you expect 7 years of sea trials for TF-2000

Admiral Yetkin mentions 3 years as when they expect to launch the ship. I don't expect it's acceptance tests which will take at least 2 years, to start before 2031-32.

 

[Oublious]

 

[Oublious]

Spanish resources on my radar, i could not find info about Gokdeniz for the Spanish navy.


Nothing officially.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1945013055990935706

 

[Khagan1923]

Spanish resources on my radar, i could not find info about Gokdeniz for the Spanish navy.


Nothing officially.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1945013055990935706

YHSS is dead lmao

 

[boredaf]

YHSS is dead lmao

Last time I checked, it wasn't even on MKE's website anymore.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1947957122735513999

 

[TheInsider]

7th to 10th vessels in 36 months damn, that is fast. We will have 9 OPVs (1 is sold to Romania) by mid-2028. Also, there is news that starting from the 3rd OPV, weapons load will be increased with 8x MIDLAS VLS.

 

[Sanchez]

We signed a 2MW Main Propulsion Engine and Localization Protocol with ISOTTO FRASCHINI MOTORI for the National Coast Guard Ship.

Do help me understand it but I think this means "NCSG" will be using Italian engines, localized by BMC.

 

[TheInsider]

Yes, Italian engines will be locally produced by BMC under a license.

 

[Huelague]

The thing is if get another LHD then we will need more aaw Frigates/destroyers so maybe a thinned down version like Asfat 3600

Not to mention that 3-4 TF-2000 are officially needed to protect the whole coast of our Land.

 

[UkroTurk]

Need for TF-2000 is imperial ambitions in near east. Do our coasts really need air defense heavy frigate TF-2000?

Land based Çakır launchers, UAVs, USV, unmanned subs, Fast Attack Crafts and Tuzla Class patrol boats are enough for our costs.

 

[TR_123456]

Need for TF-2000 is imperial ambitions in near east. Do our coasts really need air defense heavy frigate TF-2000?

Its not about the coasts,its about Air Defence for most of our territory.

 

[boredaf]

Need for TF-2000 is imperial ambitions in near east. Do our coasts really need air defense heavy frigate TF-2000?

Land based Çakır launchers, UAVs, USV, unmanned subs, Fast Attack Crafts and Tuzla Class patrol boats are enough for our costs.

You're comparing apples to oranges here, those platforms you mention and TF2000 have different tasks. TF2000 would be like having a first line of defence against enemy air strikes from the sea, giving us even more cover.

 

[zio]

This is not a FAC (Fast Attack Craft). This is a light corvette or we can call it a heavy gunboat, to bring back gunboat legacy.
IMHO, Navy still needs a true FAC design to complement this, optimized for speed and firepower instead of endurance and tonnage. It can be either manned or unmanned. Speed around 55 knots 8x SSM+smaller tactical missiles, 35mm CIWS at the front, RAM at the back. 400-450 tonnes displacement.

No they turn away that idea,remember STM design with 55 knots,its not good for bad whether even for island sea,you can not even stand up position on board with 55 knot/400 ton FAC.Üsküdar biz have good article for that idea.

 

[UkroTurk]

Its not about the coasts,its about Air Defence for most of our territory.

You're comparing apples to oranges here, those platforms you mention and TF2000 have different tasks. TF2000 would be like having a first line of defence against enemy air strikes from the sea, giving us even more cover.

Coastal line 6 miles!!, EEZ max 100 miles( just in Mediterranean sea) !!! For it no country in the world builds an air defense heavy frigate!!! TF 2000 won't work in 100miles of our shores. ( I hope)

Land based Siper, Hisar, atmaca, Çakır systems could cover our shores. There would be some gaps ,it could be solved by i-class light frigates. Even Tuzla Class with Göksur is enough.

 

[boredaf]

Coastal line 6 miles!!, EEZ max 100 miles( just in Mediterranean sea) !!! For it no country in the world builds an air defense heavy frigate!!! TF 2000 won't work in 100miles of our shores. ( I hope)

An air defence destroyer protect a certain range around it, limited by its sensors and munitions. Creates an umbrella, so to speak. It would protect our ships but also creates a first line of defence against attack coming from the sea, if it is in the right position at the moment. It's not like an enemy can just sneak ships in position, even submarines are a difficult matter at times.

 

[UkroTurk]

An air defence destroyer protect a certain range around it, limited by its sensors and munitions. Creates an umbrella, so to speak. It would protect our ships but also creates a first line of defence against attack coming from the sea, if it is in the right position at the moment. It's not like an enemy can just sneak ships in position, even submarines are a difficult matter at times.

What about I-class frigate instead of destroyer?

As I said TF2000 is for imperial ambitions!! Using TF 2000 in coastal defense is waste of money.

 

[UkroTurk]

Don't forget that MUGEM will need air defence too.

That's what I meant. It is about imperial ambitions. BTW I don't mind having imperial ambitions!!!

 

[Saithan]

There is no imperial ambitions. What matters is we protect what is ours and don't give room for megalomania or howbwest loves to stick it to us like ww1 and aftermath of ww2. Absolute Dominion over Mavi Vatan is necessary.