TR Air Defence Programs

[Sanchez]

Gürz, Arma Korkut and Korkut 100/25 from celebrations on the Vatan street.

Arma Korkut is definitely being driven by a contractor from Aselsan, but the Gürz driver seems to have an helmet?

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Gürz, Arma Korkut and Korkut 100/25 from celebrations on the Vatan street.

Arma Korkut is definitely being driven by a contractor from Aselsan, but the Gürz driver seems to have an helmet?

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Man, I love the Gürz. I hope it will perform well and I'd like to see it in action.

 

[UkroTurk]

To be honest, I find air defense systems more important rather than fighters. In Ukrainian war , a lot of mig29, su 27-30 were destroyed in airbases. A fighter flies max 2-3 hours , entire 20 hours has a rest in airbases where easy to be hit.

Also a lot fighters were down by air defense systems.

That's why air defense systems are vital. Gratefully we already have got Hisar, Siper , Korkut etc. Great achievement.

Just need ballistic missile defense systems like pac3 MSE. No doubt ASELSAN could make it.

 

[zio]

To be honest, I find air defense systems more important rather than fighters. In Ukrainian war , a lot of mig29, su 27-30 were destroyed in airbases. A fighter flies max 2-3 hours , entire 20 hours has a rest in airbases where easy to be hit.

Also a lot fighters were down by air defense systems.

That's why air defense systems are vital. Gratefully we already have got Hisar, Siper , Korkut etc. Great achievement.

Just need ballistic missile defense systems like pac3 MSE. No doubt ASELSAN could make it.

Thats why Gripen make differences,F-35 is also need short runaway ,some underground facilities are also resistant to surprise attacks.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Does anyone know if eren has an IIR seeker or an eo seeker?
Also what the price range is?

 

[boredaf]

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Does anyone know if eren has an IIR seeker or an eo seeker?
Also what the price range is?

IIR seeker and no way to know, it has just been revealed after all.

 

[Khagan1923]

December 2023, October 2024, September 2025 and now another contract worth 1.12 Billion Euros has been signed with Aselsan for the procurement of further Air Defence Systems.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1988130025950814374

 

[Pokemonte13]

2023 about 600 million euros.
2024 up to 1 billion euros.
2025 September 1.65 billion euros.
2025 November 1.1 billion euros.
In total 4.35 billion euros for missiles and batteries as well as stand alone radars(Alp300/100).
As far as I can see the only order that has been delivered is the one from 2023 the rest is yet to come.

 

[Pokemonte13]

With cost of siper being less than 150 million per unit and hisar being less than 50 million these orders should cover most of our needs. But I’m wondering how many orders has roketsan received

 

[BalkanTurk90]

With cost of siper being less than 150 million per unit and hisar being less than 50 million these orders should cover most of our needs. But I’m wondering how many orders has roketsan received

We got 4 systems (3 hisar O + 1 Siper) and some modernised 35mm guns and electronic warfare equipment for 470 million $ .
İf order is true at around 4 billion that we can get around 24 - 30 batteries with that money but mostly Hisar O . Siper 1/2 will cost alot more since are bigger and need aslo bigger radar .

 

[Pokemonte13]

We got 4 systems (3 hisar O + 1 Siper) and some modernised 35mm guns and electronic warfare equipment for 470 million $ .
İf order is true at around 4 billion that we can get around 24 - 30 batteries with that money but mostly Hisar O . Siper 1/2 will cost alot more since are bigger and need aslo bigger radar .

There isn't really a difference between siper battery 1 and 2 only the missiles are different but those are ordered from roketsan not aselsan.
We didn't just get 4 systems we also got two radars alp300g/100g and usually the radars are the most expensive thing in ad system.
Siper would be at most 200 mil $ but i don't think that its just dedicated air defence systems but other radars and more that got ordered.
Im wondering how many missiles they ordered from roketsan. If aselsan gets 4 billion then they got at least 1 billion

 

[BalkanTurk90]

There isn't really a difference between siper battery 1 and 2 only the missiles are different but those are ordered from roketsan not aselsan.
We didn't just get 4 systems we also got two radars alp300g/100g and usually the radars are the most expensive thing in ad system.
Siper would be at most 200 mil $ but i don't think that its just dedicated air defence systems but other radars and more that got ordered.
Im wondering how many missiles they ordered from roketsan. If aselsan gets 4 billion then they got at least 1 billion

No they are different in size .
For me ,i told some times ago SİPER 1 should change its name to HİSAR U. Siper 1 is more like Hisar with BOOSTER . They have same size in diameter .
Mutiple companies work to mass produce them and i think primary contractor is roketsan for missiles and aselsan for radars .

 

[Pokemonte13]

No they are different in size .
For me ,i told some times ago SİPER 1 should change its name to HİSAR U. Siper 1 is more like Hisar with BOOSTER . They have same size in diameter .
Mutiple companies work to mass produce them and i think primary contractor is roketsan for missiles and aselsan for radars . View attachment 78226

I mean the system it self not the missiles and aselsan doesn’t produce the missiles.

 

[what]

Nice, but let's not forget short range & drone threats. i.e. Germany plans to buy 480-580 Skyrangers SHORAD, as part of lessons learned in Ukraine.

 

[boredaf]

Nice, but let's not forget short range & drone threats. i.e. Germany plans to buy 480-580 Skyrangers SHORAD, as part of lessons learned in Ukraine.

We haven't, we are far ahead of the curve in the aa gun category; not only we've been producing Korkut but also we've been upgrading our aa guns well before other countries as well, before Russia invaded Ukraine.

 

[Pokemonte13]

We haven't, we are far ahead of the curve in the aa gun category; not only we've been producing Korkut but also we've been upgrading our aa guns well before other countries as well, before Russia invaded Ukraine.

Yes but currently the only short range systems I know of are korkut

 

[what]

We haven't, we are far ahead of the curve in the aa gun category; not only we've been producing Korkut but also we've been upgrading our aa guns well before other countries as well, before Russia invaded Ukraine.

No I know and understand that, we've been improving a lot since the times where we only had those Hawks and some WW2 style AA guns. But I dont think we have the numbers that we need.

 

[Afif]

We haven't, we are far ahead of the curve in the aa gun category; not only we've been producing Korkut but also we've been upgrading our aa guns well before other countries as well, before Russia invaded Ukraine.

It's about the scale of the solution needed I think. Turkish army ordered 14 Korkut systems (with 42 firing units) in total along with existing GDF gun modernised by Aselsan. All of them are already delivered. (Korkuts)

There were no addition orders for Korkut afaik. At least from publicly available sources. There should be at least several dozen more Korkut systems if you think about the scale of potential uav threats.

I hope after these HISAR and SIPER orders, they turn their attention to this.

 

[Sanchez]

I hope after these HISAR and SIPER orders, they turn their attention to this.

Maybe they already did, we don't know. We have no idea of the details of the multi billion deals they signed in the last 3 years. Seeing Gürz as well as Arma Korkut and Ejder Korkut on parades must mean something.

 

[Quasar]

It's about the scale of the solution needed I think. Turkish army ordered 14 Korkut systems (with 42 firing units) in total along with existing GDF gun modernised by Aselsan. All of them are already delivered. (Korkuts)

As you wrote İn addition to Korkuts most of the 35 mm Oerlikons were modernized i.e They have the same architecture with Korkut but towed not quite sure about the exact numbers .... around 120 firing units (?)

P.S which makes Turkey one of the biggest 35 mm Oerlikon users in the world