Khagan1923
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Yes, during the time we joined the F-35 program we were also offered to join EF as a partner. But we declined. Just like we declined to buy the F-15 when it was offered to us, or join the C-390 program as a partner when it was offered.... Sadly some of our officials don't have the ability of foresight.
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Pretty much. If US insists on this logic I'd rather just buy additional Eurofighters. We produce our own domestic munitions, not being able to use our own weapons on jets we paid for is just non-sensical.
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Acc.
Lockheed wants us to fork over the money to expand their lines in SC so they can produce our F-16. Imagine making that demand after Türkiye signed an agreement with Europe for EF and is in talks for further cooperation.
Hilarious demands of a company who is about to pay immense fines to Taiwan for not being able to deliver their F-16s in the negotiated timeframe. How about yall give us the money we paid back and we order another 20 T5 EF with that.
Or maybe go to an american competitor.
F-15EX line has room btw just as food for thought.
Lockheed wants us to fork over the money to expand their lines in SC so they can produce our F-16. Imagine making that demand after Türkiye signed an agreement with Europe for EF and is in talks for further cooperation.
Hilarious demands of a company who is about to pay immense fines to Taiwan for not being able to deliver their F-16s in the negotiated timeframe. How about yall give us the money we paid back and we order another 20 T5 EF with that.
Or maybe go to an american competitor.
F-15EX line has room btw just as food for thought.
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According to Murat Yetkin Ministery of National Defence answered that integration of our own weapons and more is part of the EF deal..... lets see if it is true or not and the details hopfully in coming days.... damn really want to belive it
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do we get the money we've already paid if no deal is reached?
Feels like C130 si missing its tail... 
The route was Ganja-Tblisi. It is being reported that plane started to lose altitude 8km after its departure.
If these are true, it is highly unlikely that it was shot down with adversary fire.
The route was Ganja-Tblisi.
If these are true, it is highly unlikely that it was shot down with adversary fire.
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İts missing tail and front cabin part wherr piots are .Feels like C130 si missing its tail...
The route was Ganja-Tblisi.It is being reported that plane started to lose altitude 8km after its departure.
If these are true, it is highly unlikely that it was shot down with adversary fire.
How that is possible ?
heavy cargo that detached or what ?
İ hope russia or armenia have not shoot it down because we need revenge and full out war can break and we are not ready
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İts missing tail and front cabin part wherr piots are .
How that is possible ?
heavy cargo that detached or what ?
İ hope russia or armenia have not shoot it down because we need revenge and full out war can break and we are not ready
2017 United States Marine Corps KC-130 crash - Wikipedia
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Khagan1923
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C-130E are if I’m not mistaken around 60 years old. As many members on here, myself included, have said these aircraft should have been replaced a decade ago. You can have the best maintainance crew which we probably have in Europe. Old means old. Things like this should never happen and happen thanks to incompetent procurement or greed of the higher ups. Again and again people lose their loved ones thanks to these decisions.
Allah rahmet eylesin. Başka diyecek bir şey yok zaten, kaç defa ayni şeyleri yaşıyoruz bir şey değişmiyor.
Allah rahmet eylesin. Başka diyecek bir şey yok zaten, kaç defa ayni şeyleri yaşıyoruz bir şey değişmiyor.
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Yes crashes happen in all militaries, including the US.
But they're still inexcusable. Every crash is preventable, whether through maintenance, training or upgrades/replacement. Civilian airline aviation has gone incredibly safe over the decades, there's no reason why military aviation can't match it under NORMAL circumstances.
This just suggests enough funds aren't being dedicated to maintaining or replacing these old platforms.
But they're still inexcusable. Every crash is preventable, whether through maintenance, training or upgrades/replacement. Civilian airline aviation has gone incredibly safe over the decades, there's no reason why military aviation can't match it under NORMAL circumstances.
This just suggests enough funds aren't being dedicated to maintaining or replacing these old platforms.
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I dont like being political with such a awful event.
Sehitlerimize Allah Rahmet dileyoum.
1. If this is a shot down. Russia and Armenia really deserve to be glassed.
2. Politicians and their penny pinching gets soldiers killed
3. Old is old no matter how many times you maintain it.
Sehitlerimize Allah Rahmet dileyoum.
1. If this is a shot down. Russia and Armenia really deserve to be glassed.
2. Politicians and their penny pinching gets soldiers killed
3. Old is old no matter how many times you maintain it.
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First of all, may the souls of all our soldiers rest in peace.
Many possibilities come to mind, but it's best to wait for the results of our government's investigation. The possibilities that come to mind are:
1- Maintenance error or negligence,
2- Sabotage of the aircraft before takeoff,
3- Possibility of being shot down,
These options carry many possibilities in themselves. This is a truly tragic incident. Necessary steps must be taken against those responsible. The root of the problem must be addressed.
Many possibilities come to mind, but it's best to wait for the results of our government's investigation. The possibilities that come to mind are:
1- Maintenance error or negligence,
2- Sabotage of the aircraft before takeoff,
3- Possibility of being shot down,
These options carry many possibilities in themselves. This is a truly tragic incident. Necessary steps must be taken against those responsible. The root of the problem must be addressed.
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May the souls of the departed rest in peace.
www.twz.com
TWZ mentioned that this C-130E was modernized through the ERCIYES MLU program. Is that true?
Detached Wings From Doomed Turkish C-130 Seen Spiraling Into The Ground (Updated)
The Turkish Air Force C-130E went down dramatically in the country of Georgia as it was returning home from Azerbaijan.
www.twz.com
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