mehmed beg
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100% and scenario would have been like for the Iranians, just in much more subtle way.
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The UAE itself is already a proxy entity for Israel and is also the world's leading money laundering hub.
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#BREAKING | It has been determined that intelligence personnel of the United Arab Emirates:
• Attempted to gather information targeting personnel in managerial positions working at defense industry establishments located in Türkiye,
• Attempted to obtain information regarding a phone used by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
• Attempted to compile biographical data on personnel working in critical positions by contacting official officials of certain foreign countries.
• 3 individuals were taken into custody in connection with the incident.
FOLLOW UP!
“There is a spying (*espionage) crisis between Turkey and the UAE
The Istanbul Chief Public Prosecutor's Office has now contradicted its own statement:
"Additional Statement
According to information obtained from our security sources regarding the spying (*espionage) investigation announced in today's press release, it has been understood that the suspects have no connection whatsoever with the United Arab Emirates.
Submitted for the information of the public."”
I’d really like to know what National Intelligence Service (MIT) really thinks about this whole thing and, of course, I’ll never know about their views and investigations.
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Guys, I’m not a fan of the UAE for obvious reasons, but according to SIPRI they’re actually our number-one customer for defense products. So when I first saw the news online, I thought it might be a manipulation intended to damage the relationship.
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You are saying that a few billions justify the betrayal?
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I never said anything about ‘betrayal.’ I’m just making an analysis. State-to-state relations run on interests, not emotions. A few billion dollars is just one part of that equation. It’s not about liking or disliking anyone... It’s about reading the situation correctly. What I pointed out is that there may not even be a betrayal in this case, and people shouldn’t jump to conclusions based on every headline they see.
According to SIPRI we’re the world’s 11th largest arms exporter and could realistically push into the top 5 within a decade. Our biggest customer right now is the UAE, so headlines that single them out as a ‘target’ don’t strike me as genuine. Be careful and don’t jump on every story!!!
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Not necessarily.
It might be other way around as well.
Arda Mevlütoğlu:
“The correction made (!) has transformed the purpose of the operation into something entirely different.
In the new statement, it is stated that the executives of our country's critically important defense firms engaged in biographical intelligence by contacting public institutions and foreign countries.”
In its corrected form, it sounds like (not definite) there is a cover up of involvement of a certain country. In this new version it’s presented as some Turkish nationals, defense industry executives of all people, are engaged in espionage activities independently. More censored it looks.
Mr. Kubilay Yıldırım, for instance, pointing to headhunting by UAE within Turkish Defence industry that has been aggressive to say the least. He also adds that the breakthrough of both UAE and Saudi Arabia defence industry in recent years is not insignificant.
here is his x thread on this subject.
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BRUH! I never imagined I’d end up defending the UAE, but here we are lol.Not necessarily.
It might be other way around as well.
Arda Mevlütoğlu:
“The correction made (!) has transformed the purpose of the operation into something entirely different.
In the new statement, it is stated that the executives of our country's critically important defense firms engaged in biographical intelligence by contacting public institutions and foreign countries.”
In its corrected form, it sounds like (not definite) there is a cover up of involvement of a certain country.
Mr. Kubilay Yıldırım, for instance, pointing to headhunting by UAE within Turkish Defence industry that has been aggressive to say the least. He also adds that the breakthrough of both UAE and Saudi Arabia defence industry in recent years is not insignificant.
here is his x thread on this subject.
I didn’t even see ‘UAE’ on the document attached in those tweets but only in the comments. And EVEN IF the UAE is on that paper, then what? Am I supposed to act shocked? Tons of countries have been doing the exact same thing for years, buddy. Look at ASML, the place is full of Turkish engineers, they’re probably serving döner in the cafeteria every damn day.
I’m not thinking like Erdoğan when he says ‘the Arabs didn’t betray us’ lol. They absolutely did at times... no denial there. But they’re not the only ones doing this, yet somehow they’re the ones being singled out right now, painted as the devil’s shadow on Earth thanks to the media.
Let me repeat: I’m not calling them angels. But if they’ve screwed us once, then what do we call the countries that have stabbed us ten times, yet we keep crawling back to them like a blinded, insecure lover afraid to be alone?
And honestly, this whole ‘Arab hate’ narrative plays perfectly into the hands of certain countries. They benefit massively from keeping that hostility alive.
If we’re claiming that we’re going to lead this whole fricking ‘turf,’ a.k.a. the MENA region, then we’d better adjust our ideological framework accordingly. We won’t achieve that through hard power alone, but by keeping regional powers close and building as many points of connection with them as possible. This is the way and Israel's one of the biggest nightmare is a good relationship between Turks and Arabs.
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