TR Industry, Science and Technology

Lool · Nov 25, 2025

Ripley said:
Not necessarily.
It might be other way around as well.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1993336180600193182

Arda Mevlütoğlu:

“The correction made (!) has transformed the purpose of the operation into something entirely different.

In the new statement, it is stated that the executives of our country's critically important defense firms engaged in biographical intelligence by contacting public institutions and foreign countries.”

In its corrected form, it sounds like (not definite) there is a cover up of involvement of a certain country. In this new version it’s presented as some Turkish nationals, defense industry executives of all people, are engaged in espionage activities independently. More censored it looks.

Mr. Kubilay Yıldırım, for instance, pointing to headhunting by UAE within Turkish Defence industry that has been aggressive to say the least. He also adds that the breakthrough of both UAE and Saudi Arabia defence industry in recent years is not insignificant.

here is his x thread on this subject.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1993285146737623264

To add on Mr. Kubilay Yildirim words, the fact that the UAE resorted to espionage reveals that they are having difficulty recruiting the required personnel from Turkey. Moreover, it can also be similar to the recent event in Iran in which both the UAE and Israel are starting to document data regarding the Turkish engineers within critical fields in the Turkish defence industry to be assassinated in the near future

Do you know how Israel managed to kill Iranian nuclear scientists? By placing spying applications into the phones of their wives, children, and grandchildren and when the target to be assassinated is close, then they bomb not only the target but also his whole family along with him; something similar may start happening in Turkey considering that Turkey and Israel will sooner or later fight it out in Syria, Cyprus, Sudan, and Greece

As for the recent advancements in the defence industry of the UAE; I would say it is because of 2 main reasons

1- The UAE has been carrying out lucrative recruiting campaigns in which they target bankrupted defence companies within Africa, Europe, and the US in addition 5o engineers who were fired due to various reasons (both good and bad). They can even go as far as offeeing 4-5 times the average salary for such job placements in the US, Europe, and Turkey

2- According to US intelligence services, both the UAS and KSA have been carrying out subtle transfer of Western technology to its Chinese counterparts. This obviously wouldnt be for free. In return, China is probably giving such countries ToT regarding less critical military hardware like howitzers, APCs, short and medium range ADs, rockets and ammunitions to be produced domestically

begturan · Nov 26, 2025

Israel is no longer waging proxy wars with terrorist organizations like ISIS and the PKK; it's now making moves against us with proxies like the UAE, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia, who will sneak up on us and stab us in the back.

We know that the UAE is waging war against Türkiye in Libya, Sudan, and some African countries. We also know that it cooperates militarily with Turkey and attempts to steal technology from us, including attempts to copy our TB2 products and related ammunition! It's also known that it employs former FETÖ engineers and collaborates with traitors within our own ranks!

Whatever they do, it's clear they still can't access our technology, can't jam electronically, and haven't produced an equivalent!

It has once again been demonstrated how right we are to act according to our own interests, regardless of nationality or religion. We are not obligated to trust anyone or any state without question. But we need deeper analysis of who our enemies might actually be.

Zafer · Nov 26, 2025

begturan said:
Israel is no longer waging proxy wars with terrorist organizations like ISIS and the PKK; it's now making moves against us with proxies like the UAE, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia, who will sneak up on us and stab us in the back.

We know that the UAE is waging war against Türkiye in Libya, Sudan, and some African countries. We also know that it cooperates militarily with Turkey and attempts to steal technology from us, including attempts to copy our TB2 products and related ammunition! It's also known that it employs former FETÖ engineers and collaborates with traitors within our own ranks!

Whatever they do, it's clear they still can't access our technology, can't jam electronically, and haven't produced an equivalent!

It has once again been demonstrated how right we are to act according to our own interests, regardless of nationality or religion. We are not obligated to trust anyone or any state without question. But we need deeper analysis of who our enemies might actually be.

There are multifaceted relationships between nations so we just need to keep our critical technologies close to the chest and keep taking the money from whoever which is what every other tech nation is doing.

Ripley · Nov 26, 2025

Pilatino said:
BRUH! I never imagined I’d end up defending the UAE, but here we are lol.
I didn’t even see ‘UAE’ on the document attached in those tweets but only in the comments. And EVEN IF the UAE is on that paper, then what? Am I supposed to act shocked? Tons of countries have been doing the exact same thing for years, buddy. Look at ASML, the place is full of Turkish engineers, they’re probably serving döner in the cafeteria every damn day.

I’m not thinking like Erdoğan when he says ‘the Arabs didn’t betray us’ lol. They absolutely did at times... no denial there. But they’re not the only ones doing this, yet somehow they’re the ones being singled out right now, painted as the devil’s shadow on Earth thanks to the media.
Let me repeat: I’m not calling them angels. But if they’ve screwed us once, then what do we call the countries that have stabbed us ten times, yet we keep crawling back to them like a blinded, insecure lover afraid to be alone?

And honestly, this whole ‘Arab hate’ narrative plays perfectly into the hands of certain countries. They benefit massively from keeping that hostility alive.

If we’re claiming that we’re going to lead this whole fricking ‘turf,’ a.k.a. the MENA region, then we’d better adjust our ideological framework accordingly. We won’t achieve that through hard power alone, but by keeping regional powers close and building as many points of connection with them as possible. This is the way and Israel's one of the biggest nightmare is a good relationship between Turks and Arabs.

All we know is that they’ve found out an espionage ring operating for a certain country within Turkish defense industry probing, researching info and collecting data. This is the news. Regardless, of race, creed, faith, ethnicity, xenophobia.
Afterwards, Chief Public Prosecutor's Office retracts the press bulletin. This is even a bigger news story because it begs the question why. It’s curiou, again, regardless of any prejudice.

Was it an attempt by Chief Public Prosecutor's Office to smear UAE? Was there a political pressure to government from an outside party so they had to retract it? Or was it even maybe a really aggressive headhunting party by few industry individuals that gone bad?
We’ll wait and see I guess.

Quasar · Dec 6, 2025

Named after our world-renowned mathematician Cahit Arf, the Arf ACC supercomputer has risen to the 145th position on the TOP500 supercomputer list, the 45th position on the GREEN500 most efficient supercomputer list, and the 70th position in the HPGC category for scientific computing.

it is operated by TUBİTAK TRUBA

good news is previous ranking was 266th for ARF ACC and we have a second supercomputer ARF again operated by TUBİTAK TRUBA as 422th in Top 500

A friendly warning look on the bright side and dont check the full list to see that Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Kazakhstan and Poland are in a better position than we do

https://top500.org/lists/top500/list/2025/11/?page=2

Cahit Arf

https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies//Arf/

Zafer · Dec 11, 2025

Türkiye's position in the top 500 supercomputers list. TAI's 20.000 + 50.000 core computers are somehow not on this list. Also 70.000 core access to the Barcelona based EU MareNostrum 5 Consortium computer is not accounted for when calculating Türkiye's computing power. I think a distributed computing scheme should also be implemented to boost the computing capability like the SETI of the 1990s. Even when these computers are added my estimate is that Türkiye comes at 27th position. Does this show a shortcoming, maybe not. List made by Zafer

#	Country	Cores	Rmax	%	X
1	United States	58,653,128	6,961,330.49	46.43%	461.1
2	Japan	13,615,160	1,425,992.45	9.51%	94.5
3	Germany	8,831,292	1,396,125.58	9.31%	92.5
4	Italy	7,716,656	888,816.92	5.93%	58.9
5	Switzerland	2,299,328	450,298.60	3.00%	29.8
6	Finland	3,116,992	391,388.31	2.61%	25.9
7	United Kingdom	2,548,776	378,120.11	2.52%	25.0
8	France	4,493,824	334,639.84	2.23%	22.2
9	South Korea	2,799,412	323,114.90	2.16%	21.4
10	Netherlands	1,403,296	291,308.45	1.94%	19.3
11	Spain	1,542,016	221,872.60	1.48%	14.7
12	Saudi Arabia	3,009,856	216,513.21	1.44%	14.3
13	Taiwan	1,063,168	208,612.52	1.39%	13.8
14	China	13,617,624	204,933.61	1.37%	13.6
15	Canada	1,990,192	158,216.26	1.06%	10.5
16	United Arab Emirates	878,400	141,761.00	0.95%	9.4
17	Brazil	1,158,880	124,511.65	0.83%	8.2
18	India	996,144	113,495.99	0.76%	7.5
19	Israel	395,936	108,810.00	0.73%	7.2
20	Poland	440,000	70,980.67	0.47%	4.7
21	Russia	657,104	68,979.00	0.46%	4.6
22	Sweden	451,200	66,959.52	0.45%	4.4
23	Denmark	223,088	66,590.00	0.44%	4.4
24	Australia	496,032	55,227.31	0.37%	3.7
25	Vietnam	142,240	46,650.00	0.31%	3.1
26	Norway	642,528	44,075.21	0.29%	2.9
27	Kazakhstan	124,416	38,410.00	0.26%	2.5
28	Singapore	315,424	38,287.83	0.26%	2.5
29	Austria	199,200	34,566.08	0.23%	2.3
30	Thailand	134,656	21,996.00	0.15%	1.5
31	Czechia	360,192	17,991.18	0.12%	1.2
32	Türkiye	82,048	15,097.61	0.10%	1.0
33	Iceland	36,208	10,530.00	0.07%	0.7
34	Luxembourg	99,200	10,520.00	0.07%	0.7
35	Slovakia	30,784	10,210.00	0.07%	0.7
36	Slovenia	156,480	6,918.00	0.05%	0.5
37	Ireland	152,320	6,697.33	0.04%	0.4
38	Argentina	43,008	5,390.15	0.04%	0.4
39	Bulgaria	144,384	4,518.87	0.03%	0.3
40	Portugal	78,336	4,016.90	0.03%	0.3
41	Morocco	71,232	3,158.11	0.02%	0.2
42	Hungary	27,776	3,105.00	0.02%	0.2
43	Belgium	23,200	2,776.00	0.02%	0.2

Quasar · Dec 11, 2025

Zafer said:
Türkiye's position in the top 500 supercomputers list. TAI's 20.000 + 50.000 core computers are somehow not on this list. Also 70.000 core access to the Barcelona based computer is not accounted for when calculating Türkiye's computing power. I think a distributed computing scheme should also be implemented to boost the computing capability like the SETI of the 1990s. Even when these computers are added my estimate is that Türkiye comes at 27th position. Does this show a shortcoming, maybe not.

#
Country
Cores
Rmax
%
X
1
United States
58,653,128
6,961,330.49
46.43%
461.1
2
Japan
13,615,160
1,425,992.45
9.51%
94.5
3
Germany
8,831,292
1,396,125.58
9.31%
92.5
4
Italy
7,716,656
888,816.92
5.93%
58.9
5
Switzerland
2,299,328
450,298.60
3.00%
29.8
6
Finland
3,116,992
391,388.31
2.61%
25.9
7
United Kingdom
2,548,776
378,120.11
2.52%
25.0
8
France
4,493,824
334,639.84
2.23%
22.2
9
South Korea
2,799,412
323,114.90
2.16%
21.4
10
Netherlands
1,403,296
291,308.45
1.94%
19.3
11
Spain
1,542,016
221,872.60
1.48%
14.7
12
Saudi Arabia
3,009,856
216,513.21
1.44%
14.3
13
Taiwan
1,063,168
208,612.52
1.39%
13.8
14
China
13,617,624
204,933.61
1.37%
13.6
15
Canada
1,990,192
158,216.26
1.06%
10.5
16
United Arab Emirates
878,400
141,761.00
0.95%
9.4
17
Brazil
1,158,880
124,511.65
0.83%
8.2
18
India
996,144
113,495.99
0.76%
7.5
19
Israel
395,936
108,810.00
0.73%
7.2
20
Poland
440,000
70,980.67
0.47%
4.7
21
Russia
657,104
68,979.00
0.46%
4.6
22
Sweden
451,200
66,959.52
0.45%
4.4
23
Denmark
223,088
66,590.00
0.44%
4.4
24
Australia
496,032
55,227.31
0.37%
3.7
25
Vietnam
142,240
46,650.00
0.31%
3.1
26
Norway
642,528
44,075.21
0.29%
2.9
27
Kazakhstan
124,416
38,410.00
0.26%
2.5
28
Singapore
315,424
38,287.83
0.26%
2.5
29
Austria
199,200
34,566.08
0.23%
2.3
30
Thailand
134,656
21,996.00
0.15%
1.5
31
Czechia
360,192
17,991.18
0.12%
1.2
32
Türkiye
82,048
15,097.61
0.10%
1.0
33
Iceland
36,208
10,530.00
0.07%
0.7
34
Luxembourg
99,200
10,520.00
0.07%
0.7
35
Slovakia
30,784
10,210.00
0.07%
0.7
36
Slovenia
156,480
6,918.00
0.05%
0.5
37
Ireland
152,320
6,697.33
0.04%
0.4
38
Argentina
43,008
5,390.15
0.04%
0.4
39
Bulgaria
144,384
4,518.87
0.03%
0.3
40
Portugal
78,336
4,016.90
0.03%
0.3
41
Morocco
71,232
3,158.11
0.02%
0.2
42
Hungary
27,776
3,105.00
0.02%
0.2
43
Belgium
23,200
2,776.00
0.02%
0.2

please also add the source for the list you shared.

Zafer · Dec 11, 2025

Quasar said:
please also add the source for the list you shared.

My own computer, calculations are made based on the data from the top500 computers list shared by the institution.

TOP500 List - November 2025 | TOP500

top500.org

TheInsider · Dec 19, 2025

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/how-china-built-its-manhattan-project-rival-west-ai-chips-2025-12-17/

China is making big leaps in chip production. Reuters reports China has an actual working EUV machine prototype.

Oublious · Dec 19, 2025

TheInsider said:
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/how-china-built-its-manhattan-project-rival-west-ai-chips-2025-12-17/

China is making big leaps in chip production. Reuters reports China has an actual working EUV machine prototype.

Former ASML employees born in Chinae yes.

If you go as a Turkish background they would never give a you important position, but from far east asia no problem.

Zafer · Jan 5, 2026

China puts SCO2 technology to use, that is supercritical CO2 used for power generation from excess heat from other processes. We had a company working on this too, but we haven't heard from it in a long time.

Fuzuli NL · Jan 22, 2026

Hidrojen yakıtlı tren için Türkiye ve İngiltere arasında imzalar atıldı

Ulaştırma ve Altyapı Bakanı Abdulkadir Uraloğlu, İngiltere ile işbirliği protokolü imzalanan Hidrojen Yakıtlı Tren Geliştirme Projesi kapsamında, Türkiye Raylı Sistem Araçları Sanayi AŞ'nin (TÜRASAŞ), projede merkez rol üstleneceğini bildirdi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

Türkiye and the UK have signed an agreement for hydrogen-fueled trains.

Minister of Transport and Infrastructure Abdulkadir Uraloğlu announced that within the scope of the Hydrogen Fuelled Train Development Project, for which a cooperation protocol was signed with the United Kingdom, Turkey Rail Systems Vehicles Industry Inc. (TÜRASAŞ) will play a central role in the project.

January 22, 2026 - Updated: January 22, 2026

Türkiye and the UK have signed an agreement for hydrogen-fueled trains.

Ankara

In a written statement, Uraloğlu stated that a cooperation protocol was signed between the UK and TÜRASAŞ at the Ministry of Transport and Infrastructure within the framework of the Hydrogen Fuelled Train Development Project.
Uraloğlu stated that the agreement was signed by TÜRASAŞ General Manager Selim Koçbay and the British Ambassador to Ankara, Jill Morris, and emphasized that this collaboration is an important step not only for the railway sector but also in terms of environmentally friendly and sustainable transportation goals.

Uraloğlu noted that hydrogen fuel cell trains not only reduce carbon emissions but also lower noise pollution, providing a more comfortable and environmentally friendly travel option. Referring to the collaboration, which will involve contributions from prestigious academic institutions and expert organizations on the UK side, Uraloğlu stated, "On the Turkish side, TÜRASAŞ will play a central role in the project as a prototype production center. A process of knowledge accumulation and technical support in critical technical areas will be carried out in collaboration with relevant stakeholders in fuel cell and system integration. We plan to produce hydrogen-fueled locomotives at our TÜRASAŞ Eskişehir Regional Directorate. This project is R&D in nature, and all rights will belong to TÜRASAŞ."

"Our goal is to build a sustainable capacity in hydrogen technology."

Underlining that this collaboration will strengthen Türkiye's institutional capacity in the field of hydrogen-powered railway vehicles, Uraloğlu stated, "Within the framework of the protocol, information and technical support will be provided in technical areas such as design, system architecture, power electronics, energy management, and safety. We will further advance our domestic engineering capabilities thanks to this project."
Uraloğlu pointed out that the project is of great importance not only in terms of production but also in terms of technology transfer and knowledge sharing, and noted the following:
"Our goal is to create a sustainable capacity in hydrogen technology and to develop domestic solutions that can compete at international standards. With our efforts in this direction, we will make TÜRASAŞ a regional center in this field. The project will also play a decisive role in the transition to environmentally friendly transportation systems in the long term. We see this investment, which will strengthen green transportation, as an important part of our 'Türkiye Century' vision."

Huelague · Jan 22, 2026

Some answers about Industry and production capabilities.

Türkiye, savunma sanayiinde Avrupa'nın en iyi tedarik zincirine sahip #shorts #sahne

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Ripley · Mar 28, 2026

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2037599007594201578

“The European Parliament's committee on defence and security voted Tuesday to exclude Turkey from participating in defence-related elements of the EU's next major research and innovation program, Horizon Europe 2028-2034.

The amendment was put forward by Cypriot MEP Costas Mavrides and passed by a wide margin, with 29 votes in favour, five against, and one abstention. The vote marks a significant step toward formally locking Turkey out of EU defence cooperation.

Horizon Europe is the EU's largest research and innovation funding framework, and its upcoming 2028-2034 phase is notable because it will, for the first time, include defence as an eligible priority. Mavrides argued that participation in those sensitive defence areas must be limited to countries aligned with EU values, international law, and good-neighbourly relations.

Mavrides was direct about the target of his amendment, saying explicitly that the revised text excludes Turkey and that countries considered hostile to the EU or its member states have no place in a future European defence framework. He framed it as a matter of principle: states that act against EU interests simply cannot be allowed inside a European defence union.

Turkey is a NATO ally but has been at odds with EU members for years over Cyprus, Aegean disputes, drilling activities in the Eastern Mediterranean, and its failure to meet conditions for EU accession. The committee vote now moves the proposal forward in the broader legislative process for the next Horizon Europe framework.”

EU is lucky to have Cyprus and Greece that could easily replace Turkey‘s decades long military tech know-how, R&D, expertise and not to mention having a combined overwhelming production capacity that would’ve overtake Turkey’s lagging industrial efforts.

Still will have to go through EU Parliament I believe but I’m happy for EU for they are on the right track to modify its security and defense structure while facing a speedily faltering NATO organization.

Zafer · Mar 28, 2026

Ripley said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2037599007594201578

“The European Parliament's committee on defence and security voted Tuesday to exclude Turkey from participating in defence-related elements of the EU's next major research and innovation program, Horizon Europe 2028-2034.

The amendment was put forward by Cypriot MEP Costas Mavrides and passed by a wide margin, with 29 votes in favour, five against, and one abstention. The vote marks a significant step toward formally locking Turkey out of EU defence cooperation.

Horizon Europe is the EU's largest research and innovation funding framework, and its upcoming 2028-2034 phase is notable because it will, for the first time, include defence as an eligible priority. Mavrides argued that participation in those sensitive defence areas must be limited to countries aligned with EU values, international law, and good-neighbourly relations.

Mavrides was direct about the target of his amendment, saying explicitly that the revised text excludes Turkey and that countries considered hostile to the EU or its member states have no place in a future European defence framework. He framed it as a matter of principle: states that act against EU interests simply cannot be allowed inside a European defence union.

Turkey is a NATO ally but has been at odds with EU members for years over Cyprus, Aegean disputes, drilling activities in the Eastern Mediterranean, and its failure to meet conditions for EU accession. The committee vote now moves the proposal forward in the broader legislative process for the next Horizon Europe framework.”

EU is lucky to have Cyprus and Greece that could easily replace Turkey‘s decades long military tech know-how, R&D, expertise and not to mention having a combined overwhelming production capacity that would’ve overtake Turkey’s lagging industrial efforts.

Still will have to go through EU Parliament I believe but I’m happy for EU for they are on the right track to modify its security and defense structure while facing a speedily faltering NATO organization.

They will buy Greek Cypriot weapons instead

They buy Turkish when they have no options.

Ripley · Mar 28, 2026

Zafer said:
They will buy Greek Cypriot weapons instead
They buy Turkish when they have no options.

I’d easily say hey, it’s politics and merrily go on my way but when I see such a blunder can’t help but see that when push comes to shove, EU is a joke that had been proven over decades.
They‘re still unaware of the things they’re to face without the USA security umbrella.

Yasar_TR · Mar 28, 2026

Let them satisfy themselves with these so called victories.
In the meantime…..

NATO is trying to form a multinational headquarters in Turkiye with a Turkish Commander in charge. (however it’s help to Turkiye is a subject open to discussions)

At the sametime EU’s richest and most populist country visits Turkish arms manufacturers with a view to manufacture and form JVs.

MSB 'Türkiye'de çokuluslu NATO karargâhı' kurulacağını duyurdu - BBC News Türkçe

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www.bbc.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2037121592073798018

They will keep coming one by one to our doorstep. Wait and see. UK was the cleverest of them all. They saw our importance in 2016 and signed a lot of important defence and trade agreements with us. (Shame we did not make use of them as well as we should).

Ahlatshah · Mar 28, 2026

Ripley said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2037599007594201578

“The European Parliament's committee on defence and security voted Tuesday to exclude Turkey from participating in defence-related elements of the EU's next major research and innovation program, Horizon Europe 2028-2034.

The amendment was put forward by Cypriot MEP Costas Mavrides and passed by a wide margin, with 29 votes in favour, five against, and one abstention. The vote marks a significant step toward formally locking Turkey out of EU defence cooperation.

Horizon Europe is the EU's largest research and innovation funding framework, and its upcoming 2028-2034 phase is notable because it will, for the first time, include defence as an eligible priority. Mavrides argued that participation in those sensitive defence areas must be limited to countries aligned with EU values, international law, and good-neighbourly relations.

Mavrides was direct about the target of his amendment, saying explicitly that the revised text excludes Turkey and that countries considered hostile to the EU or its member states have no place in a future European defence framework. He framed it as a matter of principle: states that act against EU interests simply cannot be allowed inside a European defence union.

Turkey is a NATO ally but has been at odds with EU members for years over Cyprus, Aegean disputes, drilling activities in the Eastern Mediterranean, and its failure to meet conditions for EU accession. The committee vote now moves the proposal forward in the broader legislative process for the next Horizon Europe framework.”

EU is lucky to have Cyprus and Greece that could easily replace Turkey‘s decades long military tech know-how, R&D, expertise and not to mention having a combined overwhelming production capacity that would’ve overtake Turkey’s lagging industrial efforts.

Still will have to go through EU Parliament I believe but I’m happy for EU for they are on the right track to modify its security and defense structure while facing a speedily faltering NATO organization.

I believe it is important to note, 29 favors and 5-6 against voting are not coming from the EU countries, but MEPs (Member of the European Parliament) who are in the commitee. The opinion from commitee go through EU Parliament as you wrote, then Council of European Union makes the final decision.

When it comes to Turkiye, particularly last 15 years or so, commitee opinions are the hardest, it gets softer in the process, Parliament and Council alike. For ex. in 2019 opinion was the full arms embargo but the final decision was the the limit the arms sales instead of full embargo

Still, commitee opinion does not so insignificant, at the same time far from decisive. Pink assed WOKEs and SJWs seem still alive in EU. But at the end of the day conjucture, threat perception of EU and our capabilities will determine the outcome.

For the Greeks, well, they are doing what they have been doing for the last thousand years: Trying to isolate us, if they can not, trying to contain us.

Some things are never change, even after thousand years

IC3M@N FX · Mar 28, 2026

Why on earth are we putting so much effort into helping these people? Let them sort out the war in Ukraine on their own; all this nonsense – like Steadfast 2026, the whole NATO charade, and the drone programme with Italy run by Baykar and Leonardo – is pointless. Turkey should do only the absolute minimum within NATO. Greece has been doing that for more then decades; I haven’t seen a single Fighter jet from Greece on a real NATO combat mission. No ground troops, no combat missions – they’re absolute security freeloaders -> security consumers.

Just let them get a taste of their own medicine and let Greece defend them.

TR_123456 · Mar 28, 2026

Ripley said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2037599007594201578

“The European Parliament's committee on defence and security voted Tuesday to exclude Turkey from participating in defence-related elements of the EU's next major research and innovation program, Horizon Europe 2028-2034.

The amendment was put forward by Cypriot MEP Costas Mavrides and passed by a wide margin, with 29 votes in favour, five against, and one abstention. The vote marks a significant step toward formally locking Turkey out of EU defence cooperation.

Horizon Europe is the EU's largest research and innovation funding framework, and its upcoming 2028-2034 phase is notable because it will, for the first time, include defence as an eligible priority. Mavrides argued that participation in those sensitive defence areas must be limited to countries aligned with EU values, international law, and good-neighbourly relations.

Mavrides was direct about the target of his amendment, saying explicitly that the revised text excludes Turkey and that countries considered hostile to the EU or its member states have no place in a future European defence framework. He framed it as a matter of principle: states that act against EU interests simply cannot be allowed inside a European defence union.

Turkey is a NATO ally but has been at odds with EU members for years over Cyprus, Aegean disputes, drilling activities in the Eastern Mediterranean, and its failure to meet conditions for EU accession. The committee vote now moves the proposal forward in the broader legislative process for the next Horizon Europe framework.”

EU is lucky to have Cyprus and Greece that could easily replace Turkey‘s decades long military tech know-how, R&D, expertise and not to mention having a combined overwhelming production capacity that would’ve overtake Turkey’s lagging industrial efforts.

Still will have to go through EU Parliament I believe but I’m happy for EU for they are on the right track to modify its security and defense structure while facing a speedily faltering NATO organization.

This is just a giveaway to Cyprus from the EU.
You know,Cyprus ''leads'' the EU for another 3 months i think and then its back to normal again.
Let Greek Cyprus have its moment.

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