TR Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

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There’s not going to be a downgraded F35 the only thing Saudi F35 will miss compared to Israeli F35 is the Israeli EW suite (which only Israel has for its own jets) and the access to the source Code which only the US and Israel have. But it basically be the same jet the Americans and the rest use. Overall effectiveness of these high tech weapons drops significantly when they are used by these Arab nations simply because they lack the quality in personnel. There is not going to be a software limitation LM is happy enough that there are no (more) problems with it.

This is why Arab armies will never be effective?

You know why because they dont build their own stuff and pay inflated prices for weapon systems from the USA and Europe not to mention the factors from training, maintence, strategies and tactics.

You can never be a effective fighting unless you build your own stuff.
 

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Still Turkiye wants F35 ! Thats crazy !
How many times is proved that F35 works only in hands pf US & İsrael !
We should stop every defence agreement with US even marine engines and everything else , modernise ourselfs our f16 and if Kaan is not ready , buy more eurofighter like 150 or 200 of them
İ aslo suggest to buy China J10c aircraft and equip it the jandarma (airforce) since is not part of Airforce NATO umbrella and our allies cant raise voice agaist us .
150 j10c with turkish sub-systems + 70 eurofighter + 240 f16 will be a force noone can dare to come closse . But stupid Turkish politicians are sleeping while israel bombed T4 airbase with Turks there + , they send 16+ aircfrats around idlib (our border) as show of force and we could do NOTHİNG , whats next ! İ bet israel can boöb aselsan, TAİ, MKE etc and we cant do nothing because of politicians decide since 2010 go with israeli f35 shit and talks after talks like unmature teens .
Our nation is in grave national danger and alot of us are unaware of it .
 
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Still Turkiye wants F35 ! Thats crazy !
How many times is proved that F35 works only in hands pf US & İsrael !
We should stop every defence agreement with US even marine engines and everything else , modernise ourselfs our f16 and if Kaan is not ready , buy more eurofighter like 150 or 200 of them
İ aslo suggest to buy China J10c aircraft and equip it the jandarma (airforce) since is not part of Airforce NATO umbrella and our alliens cant rise voice agaist us .
150 j10c with turkish sub-systems + 70 eurofighter + 240 f16 will be a force noone can dare to come closse . But stupid Turkish politicians are sleeping while israel bombed T4 airbase with Turks there + , they send 16+ aircfrats around idlib (our border) as show of force and we could do NOTHİNG , whats next ! İ bet israel can boöb aselsan, TAİ, MKE etc and we cant do nothing because of politicians decide since 2010 go with israeli f35 shit and talks after talks like unmature teens .
Our nation is in grave national danger and alot of us are unaware of it .
what are you talking about? everything you said doesn't make sense
 

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what are you talking about? everything you said doesn't make sense
what for example ?
-Did i lie for something ?
-Didnt israel bomb T4 base and syria !
-Didnt they say turkiye will never be in south of syria or will be bombed ?
-Didnt they finance and arms 100k + terrorists of ypg-pkk taking under control of 20+% of syrian land with most oil wells and infront of our backyard?
( Which of those is nonsense,tell me ?)
Nonsense is what US & israel doing bombing everybody killing kids for their projects and border change for kurdistan amd bigger israel
 

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Possessing the F-35 allows for the collection of critical data, including its sensors, radar cross section, infrared signature, and the properties of its Radar Absorbent Material (RAM) coating. It also enables testing against indigenous radar and infrared sensor systems to assess operational performance, even if the aircraft’s capabilities are somewhat reduced compared to the Israeli variant.
 
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Still Turkiye wants F35 ! Thats crazy !
How many times is proved that F35 works only in hands pf US & İsrael !
We should stop every defence agreement with US even marine engines and everything else , modernise ourselfs our f16 and if Kaan is not ready , buy more eurofighter like 150 or 200 of them
İ aslo suggest to buy China J10c aircraft and equip it the jandarma (airforce) since is not part of Airforce NATO umbrella and our allies cant raise voice agaist us .
150 j10c with turkish sub-systems + 70 eurofighter + 240 f16 will be a force noone can dare to come closse . But stupid Turkish politicians are sleeping while israel bombed T4 airbase with Turks there + , they send 16+ aircfrats around idlib (our border) as show of force and we could do NOTHİNG , whats next ! İ bet israel can boöb aselsan, TAİ, MKE etc and we cant do nothing because of politicians decide since 2010 go with israeli f35 shit and talks after talks like unmature teens .
Our nation is in grave national danger and alot of us are unaware of it .
Agree.

We should stay away from the F-35 from the simple reason that this flying iPad with missiles is 100% in control of USA. Thus selling the plane to the Saudis is no biggie. If they (Saudis) misbehave, the us can just activate the kill switch. It's naive to think it doesn't have such a feature.
 
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Agree.

We should stay away from the F-35 from the simple reason that this flying iPad with missiles is 100% in control of USA. Thus selling the plane to the Saudis is no biggie. If they (Saudis) misbehave, the us can just activate the kill switch. It's naive to think it doesn't have such a feature.
That flying iPad as you call it, is a masterpiece and technologically the most developed fighter aircraft currently in use. As per @YusufKnight ‘s post just above, even if you have a slightly downgraded version of this plane you will still get so much technical information that it will open your horizons when fighting against airforces that already use it as well as help you develop technologies without much guesswork.
That advantage alone is worth having them in spite of any possible downsides the plane comes with.

These planes don’t need to have a kill switch. They need continuous supply of very high tech spares (not like F14 or F5 need). They can not be operated if you don’t have specifically integrated US made munitions in hand.
So only thing US needs to do is stop shipping parts. Then you have very expensive museum pieces in your inventory that you can only watch and admire.

Buying these in excess of 100 pieces would have been the stupid thing to do. But a squadron or maximum 2 will be the right thing to do though. Especially when we have KAAN coming along in the pipeline.
 

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