TR Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

[Turkic]

I think he's also alluding to F-35s here.

"Any problem that you have with Turkey, I think I can solve. I mean as long as you're reasonable, you have to be reasonable, we have to be reasonable."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1909338107209474066

He said this while talking about Syria but I also think like you. It's not only about Syria.

 

[Turkic]

Fidan'dan CAATSA açıklaması: Hukuki süreç devam ediyor | SavunmaSanayiST

Dışişleri Bakanı Hakan Fidan, ABD’nin Türkiye’ye uyguladığı CAATSA yaptırımları ve F-35 programı hakkında açıklamalarda bulundu.

www.savunmasanayist.com

"There are approximately 20 billion dollars of spare parts that SSB and our companies want to obtain from America."

"Their (6 F-35's) money is paid, the planes are waiting there, you're stuck with the law, delivery is stopped. Some of your companies have been part of production here, and they have been removed.”

Stating that Turkey has made intensive efforts to regain these rights, Fidan said, “Now it is a process of effort to regain these things, to reclaim them as much as you give them, we are doing this.” he said."

"In principle, some things may need to be done in the law. A change of law will be necessary. Right now, I don't want to say anything clear about this."

"Fidan answered the following question about whether the lifting of the CAATSA sanctions could be associated with the S-400 system:

“We don’t have any scenarios for this (S-400). It's the same place we're standing now. So we're not in a state of changing this. If we were to change this, the US would not be have to change the legal framework there. So, the legal framework there is busy looking for a solution to the problem that exists (CAATSA).” "

So he meant Trump can change the laws when he said Trump may find a way.

Off-topic:
AI translations still need further upgrades. I used GalaxyAI but some parts were -a little- different from what Fidan said. It was a pretty good translation but you know, every word matters on such topics. So I changed some parts. Not AI's fault tho, how could it know the topic, details and terminology ?

 

[Samba]

I wonder what was discussed and possibly agreed between Erdogan and Trump !?

 

[mTT]

Turkey puts the brakes on F-16 deal in favour of F-35s​

Turkey puts the brakes on F-16 deal in favour of F-35s

Ankara mulls rerouting $1.4bn it paid for F-16s to next generation jets if Trump readmits it into the programme

www.middleeasteye.net

 

[Saithan]

Fucking idiots

 

[Zoth]

 

[Spitfire9]

Fucking idiots

I don't have any real insight into the F-16/F-35 debate. Would it not, however, have been better to buy some Eurofighters to ensure access to something with higher performance than F-16 until KAAN arrived?

 

[uçuyorum]

We all knew we would self sabotage by dragging the process for years and end up with nothing as usual, instead of just buying the things we urgently need

 

[Zoth]

I don't have any real insight into the F-16/F-35 debate. Would it not, however, have been better to buy some Eurofighters to ensure access to something with higher performance than F-16 until KAAN arrived?

In both cases, we are the reason that those deals being not finished, we are dragging the bargaining with very hard requirements in terms of logistics, spare parts production etc.

For example, we want Meteors with EFs but we also require them to let us integrate our domestic munitions.

In case of f16, as far as i know, we want to modernize all of our f16s ourselves which brings problem with certain blocks that we have no software access or license to source code.

 

[Pokemonte13]

In both cases, we are the reason that those deals being not finished, we are dragging the bargaining with very hard requirements in terms of logistics, spare parts production etc.

For example, we want Meteors with EFs but we also require them to let us integrate our domestic munitions.

In case of f16, as far as i know, we want to modernize all of our f16s ourselves which brings problem with certain blocks that we have no software access or license to source code.

We already have bought the right to upgrade our own f16 not all but the majority of them only the newer ones are not available

 

[Sanchez]

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If we enter 2030s with an all American air force with 2-5 Kaans, so help me god.

 

[uçuyorum]

If we enter 2030s with an all American air force with 2-5 Kaans, so help me god.

Always prepare yourself for the worst, usually they find a way to make it worse than you can imagine but it helps ease the pain.

 

[Crush716]

Always prepare yourself for the worst, usually they find a way to make it worse than you can imagine but it helps ease the pain.

Bro this is all part of the strategy. Confusing all sides is the key.. Trust the process bro. How could you not know that we are playing 7D chess smh

 

[mohammadtd]

Bro this is all part of the strategy. Confusing all sides is the key.. Trust the process bro. How could you not know that we are playing 7D chess smh

Thank you. I think that is the best strategy for a country where "Allies" actually embargoed when needed. My guess Turkey has backup plan and those plan turned out better then expected, hence ...

 

[Crush716]

Thank you. I think that is the best strategy for a country where "Allies" actually embargoed when needed. My guess Turkey has backup plan and those plan turned out better then expected, hence ...

Bro I was being sarcastic. I don’t think we actually have a plan. Good day to you sir

 

[mohammadtd]

Bro I was being sarcastic. I don’t think we actually have a plan. Good day to you sir

Sure. Keep doing it and it will eventually get you.

 

[bitigchi]

Logged in to say that I’ve aged 10 years reading news about our fighter jet purchases during the last year.

 

[mTT]

According to Pentagon sources speaking to Athens, the F-35 program has been confirmed for Turkey.


Greek press | Kathimerini:


According to informed sources, the Pentagon is now firmly convinced that Turkey's return to the F-35 program will not disrupt the balance in the Aegean.


In other words, what is being implied to Athens is the reality that all kinds of developments could occur in the near future.


The Pentagon has also shelved Israel's hopes for American weapons not to be sold to Turkey, including F-35s.


Diplomatically, Athens will have to wage a long struggle in the coming months to explain that Greece is the only ally that will effectively serve US interests.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1914995420272460262

 

[Huelague]

„According to informed sources, the Pentagon is now firmly convinced that Turkey's return to the F-35 program will not disrupt the balance in the Aegean.“

Of course not! Greece is helpless inferior against Türkiye. A few F-35 will not change any fact. No matter who has the planes.