TR Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1922168196229980475

If the supposed falling out Trump had with Netanyahu this was 100% one of the reasons. Netanyahu tried to pressure him into not selling F-35s to Türkiye in the Oval Office and Trump did not take that kindly.

 

[Tornadoss]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1922168196229980475

If there is a kill-switch why are they concerned?

 

[Pokemonte13]

If there is a kill-switch why are they concerned?

No kill switch. Even if there were one they wouldn’t use unless it’s life or death for them because afterwards they wouldn’t be able to sell weapons anymore

 

[mTT]

If there is a kill-switch why are they concerned?

I wish they had kill-switch, they can't use kill-switch as they want. Instead, they have more powerful forces.
1. Software update
2. Engine maintenance (not done outside the USA)
3. Spare parts

 

[IC3M@N FX]

If the supposed falling out Trump had with Netanyahu this was 100% one of the reasons. Netanyahu tried to pressure him into not selling F-35s to Türkiye in the Oval Office and Trump did not take that kindly.

I don't trust either of them and Turkey should not rely on anyone but itself. Just continue with TAI KAAN & Co, that bothers them much more.

 

[mTT]

We exported the “kill-switch” to the world, let the world deal with the “kill-switch” they are not selling us the F-35.

 

[Sanchez]

I don't trust either of them and Turkey should not rely on anyone but itself. Just continue with TAI KAAN & Co, that bothers them much more.

Turkey heavily relies on its partners for development of arms and for its security, and plans to do so continuing forward.

 

[Saithan]

Well, if we can get F-16 V, I'm all for it, EF 40 of them, sure all for it, F35 sure all for it.

In the end we can't gamble on all of these and end up with nothing in our hands. That is worst.

I think we need to seal the deal with heavy penalty for not delivering to ensure they uphold the delivery. here I am thinking of EF. sealing the deal on 40 of those will make US rush the F35 offer. 40 F-35 would be fine too.

But we must secure a fucking deal. Our enemies are talking behind closed doors and I believe they know exactly how far the deal offers have reached. even if they are competitions when it's Türkiye, They become united.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937501399677272219

UK’s F-35B Ambitions (updated)

The US, which made England worse than killing for F-35s, would do anything if Türkiye bought F-35s

 

[Oublious]

are you serious right now? really?

i checked and fak it is not ahahha...


for a moment is was happy...

 

[mTT]

US Envoy to Syria Tom Barrack on Türkiye's F-35 crisis:

We will find a solution.

This issue dates back to 2017 and was a misunderstood matter. A decade later, we're in a very different environment and moving toward a solution.

The F-35, F-16, S-400 issue — which was a political dispute — all of them have solutions.

I hope we see a resolution in the short term. I believe we're getting closer.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1950617505413861391

 

[Sanchez]

"United States Department of State
Washington, D.C. 20520
August 20, 2025
The Honorable
Chris Pappas
House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515
Dear Mr. Pappas:

Thank you for your August 7 letter to Secretary Rubio regarding the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) sanctions and Turkey. The United States has been clear with the Turkish government about our laws and policies regarding the acquisition of Russian defense equipment and the implications for acquisition of F-35 aircraft for Turkey.

The Trump Administration is fully committed to protecting U.S. defense and intelligence assets and complying with U.S. law, including CAATSA. The U.S. position on Turkey's acquisition and continued possession of the Russian S-400 system has not changed, and the requirements for Turkey to acquire U.S. F-35 aircraft are well-known, including those established by section 1245 of the 2020 National Defense Authorization Act.

Turkey is a longstanding NATO Ally with a history of making important contributions to Alliance missions. The United States' defense relationship with Turkey remains vital to the security interests of both the United States and NATO.

The United States seeks to cooperate with Turkey on common priorities and to engage in dialogue to resolve disagreements. We have expressed our disapproval of Ankara's acquisition of the S-400 and clearly conveyed steps that would need to be taken in our ongoing assessment of the application of CAATSA sanctions...."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1958198281936175189

After Greek and Israeli lobby pressure to "fact find" regarding talks of Turkey being let back into F-35, State Dept basically says officially nothing has changed and CAATSA and 2020 NDAA remains in place. There's no talk of F-35 until S-400s are removed.

 

[Zafer]

We should simply look into taking the GE share in TEI in return for the $1.4bn investment we made into the F35.

 

[Yasar_TR]

"United States Department of State
Washington, D.C. 20520
August 20, 2025
The Honorable
Chris Pappas
House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515
Dear Mr. Pappas:

Thank you for your August 7 letter to Secretary Rubio regarding the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) sanctions and Turkey. The United States has been clear with the Turkish government about our laws and policies regarding the acquisition of Russian defense equipment and the implications for acquisition of F-35 aircraft for Turkey.

The Trump Administration is fully committed to protecting U.S. defense and intelligence assets and complying with U.S. law, including CAATSA. The U.S. position on Turkey's acquisition and continued possession of the Russian S-400 system has not changed, and the requirements for Turkey to acquire U.S. F-35 aircraft are well-known, including those established by section 1245 of the 2020 National Defense Authorization Act.

Turkey is a longstanding NATO Ally with a history of making important contributions to Alliance missions. The United States' defense relationship with Turkey remains vital to the security interests of both the United States and NATO.

The United States seeks to cooperate with Turkey on common priorities and to engage in dialogue to resolve disagreements. We have expressed our disapproval of Ankara's acquisition of the S-400 and clearly conveyed steps that would need to be taken in our ongoing assessment of the application of CAATSA sanctions...."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1958198281936175189

After Greek and Israeli lobby pressure to "fact find" regarding talks of Turkey being let back into F-35, State Dept basically says officially nothing has changed and CAATSA and 2020 NDAA remains in place. There's no talk of F-35 until S-400s are removed.

This means US has no intention of lifting CAATSA sanctions in place against it's largest ally.
This also means that sanctions and semi hidden embargoes on like parts and engines would be subject to these sanctions too. Hence, F110 and f404 engine sales and/or joint production approval by Congress is also going to be a dream that never comes true.
We need to sort the engine dilemma ourselves.
F-16 joint manufacturing or deliveries news have gone cold as well. I wonder how much down payment we sent to LM for those 40 planes?

 

[Sanchez]

This means US has no intention of lifting CAATSA sanctions in place

It doesn't actually. Just that there's nothing concrete so far.