TR Land Vehicle Programs

[boredaf]

ASELSAN Integrates SARP 100/35 IFV Turret on a Flatbed | TURDEF

SARP 100/35 (KORHAN) 35 mm IFV turret for the YNHZA armoured vehicle programme was spotted on a large flatbed platform at the Gölbaşı facility of ASELSAN.

turdef.com

Here is something very odd, SARP 100/35 aka KORHAN is on a flatbed platform, idk if it is a truck or a trailer, interesting regardless

I swear Aselsan is doing this just to say "We can put this turret anywhere we want!" because this is what, 3rd or 4th different vehicle now?

 

[Kaan Azman]

Sure, it was put on three AFVs but this is kinda a different matter, operationally. This probably means the Army wants an interim solution until they finish KORKUT 100/35 SB

 

[Pokemonte13]

not sure if this is a real vehicle or just a trailer to test the turret.

 

[Kaan Azman]

this can go two ways considering the current projects and how would you test a turret as in the news, but I would give probability more than the usual for the interim solution part since we know the interest in truck/trailer mounted 35 mm weapons. Of course, KORKUT 100/35 SB is the peak of this idea with a whole sensor suite and self-detachment feature.

 

[Sanchez]

Seeing Korhan and not Korkut on flatbed makes me think that this must be a test system and not a product. But, Aselsan indeed put these things on everything so let's see.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Seeing Korhan and not Korkut on flatbed makes me think that this must be a test system and not a product. But, Aselsan indeed put these things on everything so let's see.

That’s what I said.

 

[Sanchez]

ÖMTTZA(100 vehicles. 95 sensor, radar, CBRN and command vehicles, 5 IFVs for gendarme) was signed in Dec 2019 and had a project length of 36 months. All deliveries were to be completed from 24th to 36th months. At this point, no deliveries have been made and program is 2 years behind the schedule. Boys in the army are still using M113s for these roles and gendarme still don't have their IFVs.

Tümosan was to deliver the engines for these vehicles. As we haven't heard anything from their development in years, I think Tümosan engines are left behind and they will probably use BMC's Azra if and when it becomes ready. What a sham. For this exact point, unless deliveries are complete, we can never, evet trust a procurement to go through. Another lesson in bad project management.

After 7 years, first 8x8 IFV(equipped with 25mm Nefer turret) of the gendarme was finally delivered. 4 more will follow. Ironically, gendarme is now the first service in Turkey to incur a 8x8 IFV into service. Which is not very surprising, as they were testing Arma 8x8 a whole decade ago. They were also the first user of S70 Blackhawk before army or air force.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2025981906341233099

 

[Tonyukuk]

After 7 years, first 8x8 IFV(equipped with 25mm Nefer turret) of the gendarme was finally delivered. 4 more will follow. Ironically, gendarme is now the first service in Turkey to incur a 8x8 IFV into service. Which is not very surprising, as they were testing Arma 8x8 a whole decade ago. They were also the first user of S70 Blackhawk before army or air force.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2025981906341233099

Hmm, could this be a budget problem? The TSKs budget is probably constrained due to naval and air purchases, therefore the land forces is neglected

 

[Pokemonte13]

Hmm, could this be a budget problem? The TSKs budget is probably constrained due to naval and air purchases, therefore the land forces is neglected

More likely a management issue with KKK this project is like 6 years old. I just hope alpha is better this time.

 

[Bmx98]

More likely a management issue with KKK this project is like 6 years old. I just hope alpha is better this time.

More likely neither. It's very normal that big army moves slower with equipping new stuff, that's the case in every major military in the world. E.G in US the usmc or Special forces branch constantly adopt new equipment or technologies years or even decades before they reach the Army. It's just how it works, it takes time until a vehicle is mass-adopted and reaches regular military units. In US they still have units that run on M113s too.

 

[emrebnc]

Is this a new version of Sarp? I saw this in one of the photos taken with Mark Rutte.

 

[Pokemonte13]

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Is this a new version of Sarp? I saw this in one of the photos taken with Mark Rutte.

No its most likely Sarp 100/35 turret for IFVs

 

[Sanchez]

More ZAHA/MAV and Pars Scouts to be ordered during SAHA. I wonder if they will order more IFV variant Scouts for special forces maybe.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2051385723534626919

 

[Pokemonte13]

More ZAHA/MAV and Pars Scouts to be ordered during SAHA. I wonder if they will order more IFV variant Scouts for special forces maybe.
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2051385723534626919

Pars Izci slowly becoming our patria 6x6 alternative nice. Alway thought we needed a lighter apc

 

[Pokemonte13]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2051998035907846291

 

[Sanchez]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2051998035907846291

337 more Scouts to be incurred for land forces. We should learn details in the coming days.

 

[Pokemonte13]

337 more Scouts to be incurred for land forces. We should learn details in the coming days.

And Faz 2 for Zaha

 

[Sanchez]

And Faz 2 for Zaha

Current number(27?) was not even enough for the previous single brigade; so this was always expected. Now we have 2+1.

 

[boredaf]

I can't fucking believe they released this information about E-ZPT of their own volition.

150 km (battery) / 650 km (generator) range, 20%–80% fast charging: 1.5 hours,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2012480228824600879

MKE E-ZPT ilk kez sergilendi

Türkiye’nin ilk Elektrikli Zırhlı Personel Taşıyıcısı (E-ZPT), İstanbul Fuar Merkezi’nde ilk kez görücüye çıktı.

www.defenceturk.net

So, without a generator it has 1/3 range of an M113, and to have better range it needs a generator, negating all of its supposed benefits. And that charging time is abysmal for an armoured vehicle that might have to leave at a moments notice.

 

[Bogeyman]

I can't fucking believe they released this information about E-ZPT of their own volition.

150 km (battery) / 650 km (generator) range, 20%–80% fast charging: 1.5 hours,

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2012480228824600879

MKE E-ZPT ilk kez sergilendi

Türkiye’nin ilk Elektrikli Zırhlı Personel Taşıyıcısı (E-ZPT), İstanbul Fuar Merkezi’nde ilk kez görücüye çıktı.

www.defenceturk.net

So, without a generator it has 1/3 range of an M113, and to have better range it needs a generator, negating all of its supposed benefits. And that charging time is abysmal for an armoured vehicle that might have to leave at a moments notice.

Electric motors require much less maintenance than internal combustion engines. There are no oil problems. They don't require a gearbox, etc.