TR Propulsion Systems

[Fairon]

Those tests feel like an eternity, but it is what it is.

TEI GM Prof. Dr. Mahmut Faruk Akşit:
TS1400 is actually flight-ready with all the tests and similar processes currently being conducted; we are in the third (3rd) and final stage of certification.
If there are no hitches, God willing, we expect to complete the certification process next year.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2052723638294503622

Next year?

 

[boredaf]

Next year?

18 months.

 

[AlperTunga]

We shall point out the fact that, MSB Ar&Ge possibly is not the "ArGe ve teknik hizmetler daire başkanlığı" of the TSK. MSB Ar&Ge is a new R&D office launched by civilian faction of the ministry.

I would also bet they hire retirees, and drop-outs, the ones that fails to get a position in proper companies. Let's also admit the fact that 99.9% of the retiree's or drop outs from the TSK maintenance divisions wouldn't spend a day unemployed.

Sadly we are dealing 0.01 that fits to :"Baltaya sap olamamış".

That Mrs. Kuzulu, is not different to a charlatan, she is not knowledgeable on whatever she is talking about, far from being a "director" millions of miles away.

Same goes for the ICBM, sadly. The typical R&D cycle of the Turkish Armed Forces goes throuhg:
ArGe Teknik division points out the necessity and outsources the R&D (or Technology Transfer injection) in dedicated companies, institutions, outlying what they need, when they need, how they need. From that point on SSB / MSB tracks the progress, the R&D then utilized for products that serve to TSK's needs. It has been like this, since Turkish Defense Industry has properly taken a shape from 80s.

MSB ArGe, however, is nothing. They merely have few computers, access to some left overs, access to a 3D modeler. Likely been burning money in last 5 years abruptly.

That Mrs. Kuzulu may be a good engineer, I cannot judge. But I dont get her logic. She was saying in the interview we got the fuel right we are able to produce it. We also got the explosives so we thought it is time now to share our 6000km missile with the public!!! So in her (and MoD‘s) view the missile is soon ready to be fired! Indeed, this may be the case but where and how it will land we‘ll see .

Regarding Güchan yes it can be a desperate attempt to influence US, but then I cannot explain the heli engine they presented. Why on earth we need it, I thought TEI already built it. Are we somehow in the wrong movie??

 

[AlperTunga]

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Those tests feel like an eternity, but it is what it is.

TEI GM Prof. Dr. Mahmut Faruk Akşit:
TS1400 is actually flight-ready with all the tests and similar processes currently being conducted; we are in the third (3rd) and final stage of certification.
If there are no hitches, God willing, we expect to complete the certification process next year.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2052723638294503622

I am also a bit disillusioned by him. The certification of that heli engine took way too long. Time will tell how good his team is, though, I hope they succeed.

 

[Huelague]

If such nonsense exists, who allowed it? This can't be solely due to a political election campaign! If Güçhan is bs, then Yıldırımhan must be bs too! This series of absurdities will turn Türkiye into a second Iran. let's hope there's a logical explanation for what's happening...

ICBM is more likely, if you managed liquid fuel, MRBM and multistaging.

 

[Merzifonlu]

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I am also a bit disillusioned by him. The certification of that heli engine took way too long. Time will tell how good his team is, though, I hope they succeed.

The certifying body (EASA) is an EU body. Even if they don't have problems with us, they are incredibly inefficient. I suggest you direct your disappointment to EASA.

 

[Zafer]

Tolga Özbek interviews Mr Mahmut Akşit with many details

 

[AlperTunga]

The certifying body (EASA) is an EU body. Even if they don't have problems with us, they are incredibly inefficient. I suggest you direct your disappointment to EASA.

Weird that the engine of our heli is being certified by EU, didn‘t know that. I take my statement back.

 

[Sanchez]

Weird that the engine of our heli is being certified by EU, didn‘t know that. I take my statement back.

EASA certification in question is accepted in anywhere in the world except US and possibly China. We want to see it over the world. There's also the question about insurance for civilian users etc. It was nonetheless a very arduous and maybe a delayed project. But it is on track.

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By the way, you'll see that Erdoğan didn't visit the MSB Arge booth to see our new ICBM and the 42k turbofan engine. Hopefully heads will roll in the coming months for this horrible curse on our senses and brains.

 

[Zafer]

FAA mostly accept EASA certification and vice versa.

 

[Fairon]

18 months.

I mean, in this case, it is mostly caused by EASA rather than us, but yeah, it still made me laugh. I really hate EASA for this. Nobran herifler.

Also we really need to do something about the TS3000 regarding this. If I remember correctly, the TS1400 has basically been ready for at least a year, yet it is still waiting for civilian certification. Considering they are hoping to obtain certification next year, that means there will be roughly a three-year gap during which we cannot use the engine.

For the TS1400, this might make sense because Gökbey has significant potential in the civilian market (at least TUSAŞ think so. Although Gökbey also faces strong competition.) However, for the TS3000, we may want to accelerate the process.

There has been a lot of discussion about using the engine as soon as it is ready, without waiting for civilian certification, since we do not actually need it for military use. I think we should really consider this option.

 

[Strong AI]

By the way, you'll see that Erdoğan didn't visit the MSB Arge booth to see our new ICBM and the 42k turbofan engine. Hopefully heads will roll in the coming months for this horrible curse on our senses and brains.

Did he visit any booth? I couldn't find related footage.

 

[Zafer]

Using the TS1400 engine domestically on a civilian helicopter would only require SHGM certification if they actually had the process.