TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Huelague]

Tactical or strategic?
Also with speed precision becomes harder which doesn't matter if you got a nuclear warhead but it does if its a 100-200kg warhead.
We are also working on a super sonic ashm.

I dont know. I would use tactical one.

 

[UkroTurk]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2065146782280003740

It is Türkiye's first land-launched Ramjet engine missile developed by #DELTAV company.

Technology: Ramjet Air Breathing Engine
Cruising Altitude: 4 km
Cruising Speed: 2.5 - 3+ Mach
Range: 150 km
Fuel Type: Solid

Cruise altitude 4km!!!????
I didn't know minumum altitude of ramjet missiles are limited. I thought they could skim surface at very low altitude. So the high altitude would make the missiles vulnerable before the radars???

Or I misunderstood the given information? 4km is maximum cruise altitude?

 

[Kaan Azman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2066931745589543392

EM&E Group will likely put CİRİT C-UAS on ODIN 6x6 SHORAD, which itself is pretty unusual if you ask me

 

[Sanchez]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2066931745589543392

EM&E Group will likely put CİRİT C-UAS on ODIN 6x6 SHORAD, which itself is pretty unusual if you ask me

I love this second coming of Cirit honestly.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Cruise altitude 4km!!!????
I didn't know minumum altitude of ramjet missiles are limited. I thought they could skim surface at very low altitude. So the high altitude would make the missiles vulnerable before the radars???

Or I misunderstood the given information? 4km is maximum cruise altitude?

Think of it that a Ramjet is like a turbojet Engine.
There is no bypassed air thrust involved.
What is burned in the combustion chamber is exhausted out from the nozzle as total thrust.
Except, It just doesn’t have any moving parts inside like compressor blades or turbines.

It is an air breathing engine. It needs oxygen from the air.
Too low, then the dense air increases drag.
Too high, then oxygen content may not be sufficient.

For optimum cruising where there is enough air and less drag, they are suggesting 4000m altitude for this specific design.

A ramjet (or a scramjet) engine should have a maximum altitude corridor of 20 to 40km depending on the design of the rocket and engine. As air gets rarified in higher altitudes the ramjet/scramjet rocket has to travel at high hypersonic speeds to provide enough pressure for combustion. Theoretically this type of engine can go as high as 75km. But the speed at which it has to travel to get oxygen from air at that altitude will have to be so high that the pressure build up would cause structural limitations in it’s design.

 

[MonteCarlo]

Think of it that a Ramjet is like a turbojet Engine.
There is no bypassed air thrust involved.
What is burned in the combustion chamber is exhausted out from the nozzle as total thrust.
Except, It just doesn’t have any moving parts inside like compressor blades or turbines.

It is an air breathing engine. It needs oxygen from the air.
Too low, then the dense air increases drag.
Too high, then oxygen content may not be sufficient.

For optimum cruising where there is enough air and less drag, they are suggesting 4000m altitude for this specific design.

A ramjet (or a scramjet) engine should have a maximum altitude corridor of 20 to 40km depending on the design of the rocket and engine. As air gets rarified in higher altitudes the ramjet/scramjet rocket has to travel at high hypersonic speeds to provide enough pressure for combustion. Theoretically this type of engine can go as high as 75km. But the speed at which it has to travel to get oxygen from air at that altitude will have to be so high that the pressure build up would cause structural limitations in it’s design.

Some interesting details on this specific design from tolga Özbek's interview:

- they saw that most of the ramjet designs were air launched and there wad a lack of surface launched variants
- it took them couple months to go from concept design to live firing in the air in couple months
- Since they have a cheap booster system. Testing in the air was cheaper than setting up a ground testing facility
- this design is optimized for low altitude flights. They mention it can pose a threat to ships with low altitude cruide and 2.5 mach speed
- they use a bi-conic inlet to smoothly slow down the air to the desired speed and geometry
- inlet is moveable and closed in the boost phase to not induce extra drag
- it's air intake is 10 kg/s
- everything is produced by Delta-v itself

 

[Yasar_TR]

Some interesting details on this specific design from tolga Özbek's interview:

- they saw that most of the ramjet designs were air launched and there wad a lack of surface launched variants
- it took them couple months to go from concept design to live firing in the air in couple months
- Since they have a cheap booster system. Testing in the air was cheaper than setting up a ground testing facility
- this design is optimized for low altitude flights. They mention it can pose a threat to ships with low altitude cruide and 2.5 mach speed
- they use a bi-conic inlet to smoothly slow down the air to the desired speed and geometry
- inlet is moveable and closed in the boost phase to not induce extra drag
- it's air intake is 10 kg/s
- everything is produced by Delta-v itself

Tolga Ozbek needs to be congratulated for having the perseverance to listen to that guy. He is like a machine gun throwing words at you.
The info he gave of the Ramjet Engine was rather vague. It was fired to prove that land launching is doable for such a rocket. But whether the engine was capable to have a throttle control was not mentioned. For long range ramjet flight that is important.
Solid fuels normally just carry on burning until they are depleted. (like a firework)
Meteor missile‘s throttle control is very unique. The missile actually controls the amount of solid fuel burnt. Hence for cruising, uses less fuel.

Also the systems and small guidance rockets they have developed to sustain launched satellites at specific LEO positions is admirable. It is all preliminary work for future. These guys should be supported by the government, instead of allowing poaching of their top man to Baykar.