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There is no evidence either way, nothing concrete, but her publicised remarks were remarkably ethno-nationalist, remarkably in line with the prejudices behind the massacres. At this moment, even after the deplorable occurrence of the coup, I am a Suu Kyi sceptic.What I mean to say is that Aung San Suki may or may not involve in Rohingya massacre. It could be intiated and done by military alone and Aung San Suki just cannot go against military at this situation because the Burmese people also supported the action to kick out Rohingya from their own country. What we can see that Burmese now understand that "karma" does work
Indonesia is noted for its absence in at least
1. The Rohingya issue
2. The 2021 coup in Myanmar
If Indonesia were indeed the regional leader as member @Indos would have us believe, could he try to explain the above occurrences?
Moreover, the article by author Ms Sofia Tomacruz indicates that Singapore's "balancing act" diplomacy has been "echoed"/imitated by Malaysian, Filipino and Indonesian foreign affairs ministry following suit.
The other regimes in Laos, Thailand and Cambodia - often considered to be excessively China-friendly or within the Chinese orbit - expressed a more muted response.
However, what is well known and backed by ample evidence, is the lack of Indonesian hard power, lack of Indonesian geopolitical power, lack of Indonesian diplomatic influence and this coup in Myanmar reaffirms these well known facts.
Lowy Institute's ranking of national power for the Asia Pacific region seems to be quite accurate and backed by verifiable data, after all.
Map - Lowy Institute Asia Power Index
Map the distribution of power across 27 countries in the Asia-Pacific with @LowyInstitute Asia Power Indexpower.lowyinstitute.org
It is incredible how a country that is about 50 times more populous and about 2,500 times as big in area as Singapore turns out to be militarily less powerful, technologically, industrially, scientifically, economically and diplomatically less sophisticated and geopolitically less influential.
Indonesia is noted for its absence in at least
1. The Rohingya issue
2. The 2021 coup in Myanmar
If Indonesia were indeed the regional leader as member @Indos would have us believe, could he try to explain the above occurrences?
Moreover, the article by author Ms Sofia Tomacruz indicates that Singapore's "balancing act" diplomacy has been "echoed"/imitated by Malaysian, Filipino and Indonesian foreign affairs ministry following suit.
The other regimes in Laos, Thailand and Cambodia - often considered to be excessively China-friendly or within the Chinese orbit - expressed a more muted response.
However, what is well known and backed by ample evidence, is the lack of Indonesian hard power, lack of Indonesian geopolitical power, lack of Indonesian diplomatic influence and this coup in Myanmar reaffirms these well known facts.
Lowy Institute's ranking of national power for the Asia Pacific region seems to be quite accurate and backed by verifiable data, after all.
Map - Lowy Institute Asia Power Index
Map the distribution of power across 27 countries in the Asia-Pacific with @LowyInstitute Asia Power Indexpower.lowyinstitute.org
It is incredible how a country that is about 50 times more populous and about 2,500 times as big in area as Singapore turns out to be militarily less powerful, technologically, industrially, scientifically, economically and diplomatically less sophisticated and geopolitically less influential.
It was referred as junta in some sources thus it was confusing me.Take a wild guess.
whole ASEAN is pretty much absence in myanmar 2021 coup problem.Indonesia is noted for its absence in at least
1. The Rohingya issue
2. The 2021 coup in Myanmar
If Indonesia were indeed the regional leader as member @Indos would have us believe, could he try to explain the above occurrences?
Moreover, the article by author Ms Sofia Tomacruz indicates that Singapore's "balancing act" diplomacy has been "echoed"/imitated by Malaysian, Filipino and Indonesian foreign affairs ministry following suit.
The other regimes in Laos, Thailand and Cambodia - often considered to be excessively China-friendly or within the Chinese orbit - expressed a more muted response.
However, what is well known and backed by ample evidence, is the lack of Indonesian hard power, lack of Indonesian geopolitical power, lack of Indonesian diplomatic influence and this coup in Myanmar reaffirms these well known facts.
Lowy Institute's ranking of national power for the Asia Pacific region seems to be quite accurate and backed by verifiable data, after all.
Map - Lowy Institute Asia Power Index
Map the distribution of power across 27 countries in the Asia-Pacific with @LowyInstitute Asia Power Indexpower.lowyinstitute.org
It is incredible how a country that is about 50 times more populous and about 2,500 times as big in area as Singapore turns out to be militarily less powerful, technologically, industrially, scientifically, economically and diplomatically less sophisticated and geopolitically less influential.
It was referred as junta in some sources thus it was confusing me.
Junta usually refers to a small group of low rank people -disabling higher ranks and occupying their power, thus i assumed it could be US.
Turns out to be an actual coup which involved high rank officers, no other chances else than being China.
whole ASEAN is pretty much absence in myanmar 2021 coup problem.
from your statement about rohingya issue , already tell us how much clueless you are , we got a fu*kton of rohingya refugee here , they're only complaining is because they are too demanding (even when local already help them) asking for better living while acting like a parasite in other countries, and their main destination was malaysia and australia, yet they got rejected and sent back to sea when they got caught with both country maritime/border authority.
Saying Indonesia is abstain in Rohingya issue and Myanmar coup shows you like to lie instead of making honest judgment. Go search Google dude.
LOL when Singapore rush to make statement, it doesnt necessary say it is the leader LOL.
The tone of the statement is in accordance with ASEAN principle and many who understand the region better would already predict that kind of tone will be made by all ASEAN democratic nations, regardless who will speak it the first.
Even China which has greater influence over Myanmar doesnt say anything rough as well. Indonesia made statement hours later and which is accordance with ASEAN principle as well.
Singapore rely water supply from Malaysia to keep living, lol your kind of thinking stated even Malaysia is less influential than Singapore because they made statement couple hours late than Singapore.
Sorry, What kind of logic is that ? Singapore even cannot live without Malaysia water supply.
Here to make you understand the situation :
Aung San su kyi is making a peace agreement with Chinese ethnic rebel in Myanmar while Myanmar military prefer military solution which is against China interest. So we can see even China make soft comment over the coup despite that mentioned situation. We cannot interfere into some one else country domestic politics too much.
There is reason of why South East Asian countries can live peaceful to each other, unlike what happen in Middle East and South Asia. In the past Indonesia tried to invade Malaysia+Singapore which then those nations get help from British, Australia, and New Zealand armed force. We made war in the past because the strongest one, Indonesia, like to do interference.
Today ASEAN prefer to improve their economic and make less noise about each other domestic politics. Do you ever read any comment about Indonesia invasion of East Timor, East Timor occupation, Aceh rebellion war, and Indonesian army conduct in Papua province from Singapore ???
They dont dare make any statement on that, even one of Indonesian navy vessel named with the one who bombed Singapore in the past and they cannot make any thing over that LOL
KRI Usman Harun
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There is ASEAN non-interference principle.
This is from real power, not nobody think thank comes from Indonesian rival, Australia, that you like to post every time every where where no body put weight on their assessment
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U.S.-INDONESIA RELATIONS
Indonesia is a vital partner in the Indo-Pacific Region and U.S.-Indonesia relations have taken on increasing importance. Indonesia is the world’s third largest democracy, largest Muslim-majority country, the seventh-largest economy by purchasing power, and a leader in ASEAN.
U.S. Relations With Indonesia - United States Department of State
More information about Indonesia is available on the Indonesia country page and from other Department of State publications and other sources listed at the end of this fact sheet. U.S.-INDONESIA RELATIONS Indonesia is a vital partner in the Indo-Pacific Region, and U.S.-Indonesia relations have...www.state.gov
LOL when Singapore rush to make statement, it doesnt necessary say it is the leader LOL. The tone of the statement is in accordance with ASEAN principle and many who understand the region better would already predict that kind of tone will be made by all ASEAN democratic nations, regardless who will speak it the first. Even China which has greater influence over Myanmar doesnt say anything rough as well. Indonesia made statement hours later and which is accordance with ASEAN principle as well.
Singapore rely water supply from Malaysia to keep living, lol your kind of thinking stated even Malaysia is less influential than Singapore because they made statement couple hours late than Singapore. Sorry, What kind of logic is that ? Singapore even cannot live without Malaysia water supply.
Here to make you understand the situation :
Aung San su kyi is making a peace agreement with Chinese ethnic rebel in Myanmar while Myanmar military prefer military solution which is against China interest. So we can see even China make soft comment over the coup despite that mentioned situation. We cannot interfere into some one else country domestic politics too much.
There is reason of why South East Asian countries can live peaceful to each other, unlike what happen in Middle East and South Asia. In the past Indonesia tried to invade Malaysia+Singapore which then those nations get help from British, Australia, and New Zealand armed force. We made war in the past because the strongest one, Indonesia, like to do interference.
Today ASEAN prefer to improve their economic and make less noise about each other domestic politics. Do you ever read any comment about Indonesia invasion of East Timor, East Timor occupation, Aceh rebellion war, and Indonesian army conduct in Papua province from Singapore ??? They dont dare make any statement on that, even one of Indonesian navy vessel named with the one who bombed Singapore in the past and they cannot make any thing over that LOL
KRI Usman Harun
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That particular corvette, because of its name, is forbidden access in Singapore territorial waters,it can't sail in any Singaporean port nor can it train alongside Singaporean vessels.
I think she was under extreme pressure and was threatened by the brass which left her no choice but keep quiet regarding the massacre.I remember seeing those small clips on MTV about Aung San Suu Kyi being imprisoned when I was a child and how people were happy when she was released. And then years later looked the other way or even supported ethnic cleansing.
That particular corvette, because of its name, is forbidden access in Singapore territorial waters,it can't sail in any Singaporean port nor can it train alongside Singaporean vessels.