A Drone is not going to change the course of the war, hmmm.A drone is not going to change the course of the war.
Yemenis are not Armenians.
Syria and Libya have much better terrain than Yemen. War in Armenia was in a flatter area as well and fighting novice conscripts.A Drone is not going to change the course of the war, hmmm.
When did i hear this before?
Oh..
Libya,
Syria,
The best was in Armenia though, the drones were not effective at all they have downed drones day and day after and hunter all operators until Azerbaijan has been forced to sign a retreat.
If lies make you happier, live by them.
Iraq- N.Iraq?Syria and Libya have much better terrain than Yemen. War in Armenia was in a flatter area as well and fighting novice conscripts.
Whether you're high on a mountain or far out on the ocean, none of it really matters when you're faced with a fleet of Bayraktar TB2s. They will find you, and they will kill you.
However, a major difference between Yemen and for example, Idlib and Nagorno-Karabakh, is that the Houthis don't have a vast defensive network of trenches or a fleet of AFVs massed in a relatively small area of operations. In addition, the Houthis mostly rely on highly mobile fighters that move from position to position (unlike the Armenian trenches that never moved an inch since the mid-to-late 1990s).
The TB2s had no lack of targets when operating over Nagorno-Karabakh because large numbers of manpower and equipment were concentrated in a relatively small area, and were easy to find ans trike.
But Oryx, you might ask, what's so different about the way Turkey employs its UCAVs compared to the Saudis? Glad you asked! The Saudis appear to operate their UAVs over locations that are known to harbour activities by Houthi fighters. But Yemen is a big country, and when you're looking for small numbers of Houthi fighters advancing under the cover of trees (or are they civilians?) or a Toyota truck (or is it just a civilian truck?) hiding next to a building it's really difficult to achieve concrete results that also translate into a difference on the ground. On top of that, there's no cohesive strategy, and their strikes are usually not followed by offensives. The actual impact these strikes make to the situation on the ground is thus close to nihil. Let's say a drone strike kills four Houthi fighters, while at the same day 48 Yemeni citizens join the movement and take up arms. It just doesn't make a difference.
The Turkish doctrine on the other hand sees TB2s operate in support of (upcoming) ground offensives. They go in before a major offensive commences and start striking defensive positions, tanks, staging areas, artillery pieces, supply depots and trucks carrying manpower and supplies, so that by the time the ground forces commence their advance most of the defenders are already annihilated.
When people were commenting that Turkey was so slow to advance in Afrin, or that Azerbaijani forces 'suddenly stopped advancing in Nagorno-Karabakh', little did they know that a fleet of TB2s was making sure that ground forces in either location could advance with relatively little casualties.
If Saudi Arabia manages to replicate this success (probably under Turkish guidance), by gathering a force (or proxy forces) that are well motivated, equipped and trained in mountainous warfare, and let these carry out offensives in specific areas all the while being supported by Bayraktar TB2s operating in the area beforehand and during the offensive itself, we could suddenly see advances happening in areas that were considered impenetrable in the past five years.
It's not just that the TB2 is an amazing machine, it's also the way that they're being used. The UAE started deploying its Wing Loong drones in Libya in 2016, yet they never managed to make a difference on the ground. Not in two years, not in three, not even in four! At that time the GNA didn't receive any foreign military support. They had no operation SAMs or interceptors, and the Wing Loongs were free to strike wherever they wanted. Then Turkey deploys TB2s to the country and they not only manage to secure Tripoli, but also drastically change the course of the Libyan Civil War, all that within one year. Then we witnessed what happened in Nagorno-Karabakh, a frozen conflict since the mid-1990s, but it took a small fleet of TB2s only 44 days to turn the Armenian Army into a smoldering heap of Soviet junk. Faced with a plethoria of older and newer models of Russian air defence systems, Azerbaijan lost just two TB2s (one crashed, the other shot down).
Really, there's no equivalent of the successes achieved by the TB2 in the history of warfare. Somehow everyone still talks about the revolutionary introduction of the tank during World War I, but has there ever been a piece of military equipment (supported by the right tactics) that has managed to make such an impact on the course of conflicts as the TB2? To put it bluntly: No. Of course, you won't see many analysts writing about this because being positive about Turkey appears to be highly impopular these days.
But if you look at in a neutral manner then it's no wonder that countries like Saudi Arabia are looking to replicate these successes. But don't just take my word for it, and also look what UK Defence Secrary Ben Wallace had to say: https://baykardefence.com/haber-UK-defense-chief-Turkish-use-of-drones-game-changing.html
Master talk! Thank you!Whether you're high on a mountain or far out on the ocean, none of it really matters when you're faced with a fleet of Bayraktar TB2s. They will find you, and they will kill you.
However, a major difference between Yemen and for example, Idlib and Nagorno-Karabakh, is that the Houthis don't have a vast defensive network of trenches or a fleet of AFVs massed in a relatively small area of operations. In addition, the Houthis mostly rely on highly mobile fighters that move from position to position (unlike the Armenian trenches that never moved an inch since the mid-to-late 1990s).
The TB2s had no lack of targets when operating over Nagorno-Karabakh because large numbers of manpower and equipment were concentrated in a relatively small area, and were easy to find ans trike.
But Oryx, you might ask, what's so different about the way Turkey employs its UCAVs compared to the Saudis? Glad you asked! The Saudis appear to operate their UAVs over locations that are known to harbour activities by Houthi fighters. But Yemen is a big country, and when you're looking for small numbers of Houthi fighters advancing under the cover of trees (or are they civilians?) or a Toyota truck (or is it just a civilian truck?) hiding next to a building it's really difficult to achieve concrete results that also translate into a difference on the ground. On top of that, there's no cohesive strategy, and their strikes are usually not followed by offensives. The actual impact these strikes make to the situation on the ground is thus close to nihil. Let's say a drone strike kills four Houthi fighters, while at the same day 48 Yemeni citizens join the movement and take up arms. It just doesn't make a difference.
The Turkish doctrine on the other hand sees TB2s operate in support of (upcoming) ground offensives. They go in before a major offensive commences and start striking defensive positions, tanks, staging areas, artillery pieces, supply depots and trucks carrying manpower and supplies, so that by the time the ground forces commence their advance most of the defenders are already annihilated.
When people were commenting that Turkey was so slow to advance in Afrin, or that Azerbaijani forces 'suddenly stopped advancing in Nagorno-Karabakh', little did they know that a fleet of TB2s was making sure that ground forces in either location could advance with relatively little casualties.
If Saudi Arabia manages to replicate this success (probably under Turkish guidance), by gathering a force (or proxy forces) that are well motivated, equipped and trained in mountainous warfare, and let these carry out offensives in specific areas all the while being supported by Bayraktar TB2s operating in the area beforehand and during the offensive itself, we could suddenly see advances happening in areas that were considered impenetrable in the past five years.
It's not just that the TB2 is an amazing machine, it's also the way that they're being used. The UAE started deploying its Wing Loong drones in Libya in 2016, yet they never managed to make a difference on the ground. Not in two years, not in three, not even in four! At that time the GNA didn't receive any foreign military support. They had no operation SAMs or interceptors, and the Wing Loongs were free to strike wherever they wanted. Then Turkey deploys TB2s to the country and they not only manage to secure Tripoli, but also drastically change the course of the Libyan Civil War, all that within one year. Then we witnessed what happened in Nagorno-Karabakh, a frozen conflict since the mid-1990s, but it took a small fleet of TB2s only 44 days to turn the Armenian Army into a smoldering heap of Soviet junk. Faced with a plethoria of older and newer models of Russian air defence systems, Azerbaijan lost just two TB2s (one crashed, the other shot down).
Really, there's no equivalent of the successes achieved by the TB2 in the history of warfare. Somehow everyone still talks about the revolutionary introduction of the tank during World War I, but has there ever been a piece of military equipment (supported by the right tactics) that has managed to make such an impact on the course of conflicts as the TB2? To put it bluntly: No. Of course, you won't see many analysts writing about this because being positive about Turkey appears to be highly impopular these days.
But if you look at in a neutral manner then it's no wonder that countries like Saudi Arabia are looking to replicate these successes. But don't just take my word for it, and also look what UK Defence Secrary Ben Wallace had to say: https://baykardefence.com/haber-UK-defense-chief-Turkish-use-of-drones-game-changing.html
What are missiles type on the right side under wing. Air to ground?
It kinda looks like a cirit pod. But i dont know for sure.What are missiles type on the right side under wing. Air to ground?
Looks like a screenshot from STARWARS!
https://tayfunkalafat.artstation.com/projects/2xgV6J (there are some photos with Cirit pod on the ground, but this one is a good artwork, credit goes to the artist)