Montreux and Ataturk declaration from 103 retired Turkish admirals

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Why are former military personnel collectively involving themselves in politics? Some members make comparisons between Turkey and Western "Ideals" but give us an example in the West where this has happened. This also reminds me of the University professors that wrote a letter against operations in Syria. Why don't they leave there state paid salaries in protest and form a political party together?
 
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Why are former military personnel collectively involving themselves in politics? Some members make comparisons between Turkey and Western "Ideals" but give us an example in the West where this has happened. This also reminds me of the University professors that wrote a letter against operations in Syria. Why don't they leave there state paid salaries in protest and form a political party together?
First the subject is Montreux and fundamentalism in TN.
Second they weren't not ordinary officers, they were navy admirals who used to conduct doctrines of Turkish government over disputed water.
Who should have made commitment about Montreux , the Ayasofya İmamı ?


İ can't understand what exactly disturbed you, retired admirals complaining about illegal organizations in Turkish Navy.
 
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Don't be so brave with these statements so you not to be deceived. Our memory is long.
Why don't you remind people what sects are about instead of talking about memory.
 
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Why are former military personnel collectively involving themselves in politics? Some members make comparisons between Turkey and Western "Ideals" but give us an example in the West where this has happened. This also reminds me of the University professors that wrote a letter against operations in Syria. Why don't they leave there state paid salaries in protest and form a political party together?
You need to look before.

In a TV program, head of the Turkish parliament said that "Erdogan can null the Montreux agreement with a single signature".
That opened the pandoras box.
 

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First the subject is Montreux and fundamentalism in TN.
Second they are not ordinary officers, they are navy admirals who use to conduct doctrines of Turkish government over disputed water.
Who should have made commitment about Montreux , the Ayasofya İmamı ?


İ can't understand what exactly disturbed you, retired admirals complaining about illegal organizations in Turkish Navy.
What disturbed me is that what's to say these people are not influenced (or lobbied) from people abroad, especially enemies of the State or State enemies.
 

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You need to look before.

In a TV program, head of the Turkish parliament said that "Erdogan can null the Montreux agreement with a single signature".
That opened the pandoras box.
He's an idiot for doing that but most likely AKP testing the water to gauge public opinion.
 

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What Turkey needs is a decent opposition party to voice public concerns or opinions instead of constant declarations and protests that are always politically motivated.
 
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What disturbed me is that what's to say these people are not influenced (or lobbied) from people abroad, especially enemies of the State or State enemies.
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Yeah this admiral is not from US Navy!
He serves in Turkish Navy.


Enemy states what exactly did , they after world war one made you signed Sevres Treaty. Thanks to Montreux we barely ebolished it.

We won't allow you removing Atatürk from Turkish Army.
 

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Regardless of what side you guys on.

Can we all agree that the straits need to have a transit fee.

All that money need to be made is burning me.
 
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What Turkey needs is a decent opposition party to voice public concerns or opinions instead of constant declarations and protests that are always politically motivated.
In a democratic country everyone or every group can voice their concerns. You can't criminalize anyone for talking.
 

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Regardless of what side you guys on.

Can we all agree that the straits need to have a transit fee.

All that money need to be made is burning me.
it wont happen, tranches are to deep.
 

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Montreux Treaty should be abolished, our waters our sovereign right to govern the straits as we please - not others.
 

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Yeah this admiral is not from US Navy!
He serves in Turkish Navy.


Enemy states what exactly did , they after world war one made you signed Sevres Treaty. Thanks to Montreux we barely ebolished it.

We won't allow you removing Atatürk from Turkish Army.

What link does sevres and montetruex have???

You do realise it was in Ataturks plan to take over the straits completely during the independance war and in the 1930s.

The allies played dirty with us by denying a military takeover. Same story with Mosul.

Then again im not angry at anybody as our capabilities were limited.
 
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In a democratic country everyone or every group can voice their concerns. You can't criminalize anyone for talking.
He appears to be blind to declarations of the Hagia Sophia Imam while civil servants remain silent during their duties.
 

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Yeah this admiral is not from US Navy!
He serves in Turkish Navy.


Enemy states what exactly did , they after world war one made you signed Sevres Treaty. Thanks to Montreux we barely ebolished it.

We won't allow you removing Atatürk from Turkish Army.
What is wrong with this?
Montreux Treaty should be abolished, our waters our sovereign right to govern the straits as we please - not others.
Unlike the olden times power projection to the Black Sea does not rely on navy alone. Cargo planes can carry pretty much anything to anywhere.
 

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Unlike the olden times power projection to the Black Sea does not rely on navy alone. Cargo planes can carry pretty much anything to anywhere.

You know that's not sustainable, why even suggest such a thing? :)

Black Sea Countries gonna be at mercy of Turkey :) it'll be a hoot !
 

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