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He also said that there are 5 ready Aksungur drones. They are probably waiting to officially deliver them. We know Navy was seriously interested and probably they will be the first customers.
 

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He also said that there are 5 ready Aksungur drones. They are probably waiting to officially deliver them. We know Navy was seriously interested and probably they will be the first customers.
Wow 5 units have already been finalised? That’s great news indeed. However, I thought that the AESA radars won’t be ready until the end of this year. If so, can we assume that the radars are only intended for Akıncı and not for Aksungur? Can Aksungur operate for the Navy as a maritime patrol aircraft without these radars or do we have a ready-made solution for that?
 

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Wow 5 units have already been finalised? That’s great news indeed. However, I thought that the AESA radars won’t be ready until the end of this year. If so, can we assume that the radars are only intended for Akıncı and not for Aksungur? Can Aksungur operate for the Navy as a maritime patrol aircraft without these radars or do we have a ready-made solution for that?
The only one planned to have AESA radar is akinci.
 

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Wow 5 units have already been finalised? That’s great news indeed. However, I thought that the AESA radars won’t be ready until the end of this year. If so, can we assume that the radars are only intended for Akıncı and not for Aksungur? Can Aksungur operate for the Navy as a maritime patrol aircraft without these radars or do we have a ready-made solution for that?
We haven't heard about EASA radars for Aksungur but it can be a simple upgrade when there is such a thing. It can possibly use networked ground radars or radars of other platforms for some radar functionality.
 

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Wow 5 units have already been finalised? That’s great news indeed. However, I thought that the AESA radars won’t be ready until the end of this year. If so, can we assume that the radars are only intended for Akıncı and not for Aksungur? Can Aksungur operate for the Navy as a maritime patrol aircraft without these radars or do we have a ready-made solution for that?
I am not aware of plans to equip Aksungur with an AESA radar. I think that would be better suited for Akinci. The way I see it is that Akinci will be a real attack UAV taking in account the variety of payloads it will have and the useful payload it can carry while Aksungur will be most likely used for long duration advanced ISR, EW or any other tasks requiring advanced sensor deployment for a long durations of time.

When it comes to the maritime patrol aircraft configuration Aksungur will be equipped with Magnetic Anomaly Detector boom. The full configuration is SAR/GMTI-ISAR, AIS, Sonobuoy pod, MAD boom.
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After successfully launching a KGK ammunition from Aksungur and hitting a target at 30+km, Tusas is aiming to increase the range to 45km.
 

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A helicopter is a rotary wing. Its blades are wings.

Just because Airbus with its tens of thousands of engineers is building such a vehicle does not mean they will be successful, they are failing, they will probably quit soon but they are not prepared to take the shame.

Those companies that are preparing for commercial deployment all have wings barring one which is the Chinese eHang. eHang with its toylike design is even going public through a SPAC deal and have already reached several billion dollar valuation. They can not be allowed to carry people. Regulations allow no more than 1 fatal accident per one billion hour of flight but eHang has never shared their development records, no one knows if they ever crashed or not. Just like how citizens of Wuhan do not report deaths.

For your information;

Several of the makers of un-winged flying machines have decided to come up with winged designs likely abandoning their multi-copter designs.

AIRBUS with its thousands of aviation engineers have said that their design is for technology demonstration and there is no plans to certify and commercialize it.

VOLOCOPTER is also considering a winged design likely abandoning its under-performing, useless multi-copter.

EHANG has declared that it will developed a winged model possibly using its existing model for cargo only.

Top technology pioneers claim that multi-copter designs will be abandoned in a few years switching to winged designs not only because their all around lacking performance but also because their noise as they run on high power at all times.

So now you know.
 

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Aksungur now furnished with indigenous satcom system giving it almost no limit in communication distance only restricted by its fuel.
During the last test at Sinop when it launched the KGK ammunition, it was controlled from Ankara through satcom.
 

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Ismail Demir: I think Rafales will no longer be a "game changer" factor when jet powered fighter drone join to inventory along with our SAM systems
 

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Which system are they talking about? Aksungur turned out to be a suicide drone and we dont even know if MIUS is in development.
 

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*Goksungur you mean? :giggle:
My friend in TUSAS says that Göksungur supersonic UCAV will fly alongside MMU with a loyal wingman mission profile. He said the first prototype was developed on a mini-scale to avoid risk and the prototype was ready. A 1:1 scale model will be produced when positive results are obtained. The first prototype will use a turbojet. Again, they will work on the prototype to understand the supersonic regime with sensitive control surfaces. The actual model, meanwhile, is expected to be the size of fighter jets.
 

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My friend in TUSAS says that Göksungur supersonic UCAV will fly alongside MMU with a loyal wingman mission profile. He said the first prototype was developed on a mini-scale to avoid risk and the prototype was ready. A 1:1 scale model will be produced when positive results are obtained. The first prototype will use a turbojet. Again, they will work on the prototype to understand the supersonic regime with sensitive control surfaces. The actual model, meanwhile, is expected to be the size of fighter jets.
The UCAV Göksungur will have the same operational role that the Russians want for the UCAV Sukhoi S-70 Okhotnik-B. The Russians will have it operational ready in 2024. Will the Turkish TUSAS have managed to integrate the UCAV Göksungur operationally by then? Baykar has already announced that the UCAV Muharip İnsansız Uçak Sistemi (MİUS) will fly in 2023. Do you have any relevant information on what will be the differences between Göksungur and MİUS?
 

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