Indonesia Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

[Gundala]

They are only launched not commisioned, the fitting phase is on the way at the pier side as the main dock right now being used to build another ships on the Pipeline

As i had said before, FFM 30 is a done deal project from the beginning with so many interest holder had interest in this project. Endorsed by no less MoF (who want to secure more tax from coming Investment of Japanese investor), MoD, Prime Minister of Indonesia, Indonesian Presiden himself, and SOE Minister. Japanese want to sold their major Frigates to major country like Indonesia, meanwhile Indonesian need more surface combatant warships to build up forces to face the threat from the North. Japan had conflict and severe issue against China, Indonesia doesn't trust China actually from the security point of view, we got aligned policy and goals here although both Japan and Indonesia actually one of the biggest economy partner of China. Japan had stake on their massive Investment in Indonesia, to add more Naval security of Indonesia Armed Forces along with solid Defense relationship is win win solution for both countries.

Good point and well said. To counter Tiongkok pressure it is within our national interest to form economic & military balance outside both Tiongkok & US, in my eyes they are both the same in matter of pursuing their national interest. As other have said before it also include our military equipment compatibility with Nato and Japan as well. We should pursue more economic, military & technology towards the region power houses specially with South Korea and Japan. We are going in the right way so far

 

[Van Kravchenko]

In the future, it's best to sticking to for our defence assets requirement. Not only both countries has already well familiar to one another, our cultural custom practice are also similar, thus making it far easier to talk to another without risking miss interpretation. Furthermore, is a quasi nuclear power, which mean they could turn with their own nuclear arsenal literally overnight (under 24 hours), not to mention they have mature advance industrial capability

Dai nippon teikoku banzai ......! ! !

Old brother always come in time of need isn't it ?

Gladly, after decades become Hikkikomori gladly open their arms sale to mid-lower country wich come almost on it's original configuration.

Cant wait for MHI to announce Frigate sale to

 

[trishna_amrta]

Also both in grassroots and govt level JP have good impression here, along with SK.

Oh still in asking phase, I wish for the best.

I never fancy dealing with Korean. Their demeanour tend to be similar to that of the Han folk. They still believe in their racial supremacy. While with the Japanese, their demeanour tend to be that of a big brother or teacher.

 

[Mandala]

KRI Tombak-629.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=3841287705979544&id=181276675314017

 

[Aghost132483]

Well as long as it can be delivered.

KCR 60 Kerambit design is the ugliest KCR 60 with the big door in front, anybody know what is the purpose of that big door?

 

[NEKO]

KCR 60 Kerambit design is the ugliest KCR 60 with the big door in front, anybody know what is the purpose of that big door?

I agree, maybe they try to do some "innovation" to reduce RCS or something, lets wait for the gun to be installed will it still be ugly or good we will know, that door is to access the front of the ship. It is better to use the previous design or just copy sigma style like PAL new LPD.


I don't think that there is much difference about the RCS, its more about new appearance so people would thought that PAL doing some innovation, unnecessary one IMO.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1419139976181080069

 

[FlyinMandau]

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Cut it off, there's no such thing as racial supremacy. Every race has their uniqueness which are the result of geographical and cultural/way of life factors that may affect their genes. But that doesn't make any race superior than any other races. Also being a melting pot of cultures doesn't mean we only inherit the good one from any of those cultures, this isn't a game where you can mix material A with material B to enhance it to another levels. This kind of thinking is the one that gave birth to racism and facism, and look where that superiorism take Nazi's germany, Mussolini's Italian, Roman Empire, and Qing dynasty to?

 

[NEKO]

Cut it off, there's no such thing as racial supremacy. Every race has their uniqueness which are the result of geographical and cultural/way of life factors that may affect their genes. But that doesn't make any race superior than any other races. Also being a melting pot of cultures doesn't mean we only inherit the good one from any of those cultures, this isn't a game where you can mix material A with material B to enhance it to another levels. This kind of thinking is the one that gave birth to racism and facism, and look where that superiorism take Nazi's germany, Mussolini's Italian, Roman Empire, and Qing dynasty to?

What did he said?

 

[FlyinMandau]

What did he said?

you can guess it by my reply

 

[Madokafc]

 

[Anmdt]

I don't think that there is much difference about the RCS, its more about new appearance so people would thought that PAL doing some innovation, unnecessary one IMO.

Not an innovation but cost saving.

 

[Anmdt]

Their demeanour tend to be similar to that of the Han folk. They still believe in their racial supremacy

they actually don't, at least i have never felt it maybe because i wasn't an Asian. But i did feel it with the Chinese.
I didn't see if they treated Indonesian the way you have mentioned in some joint projects too.

 

[JATOSINT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1419355605777616905

 

[trishna_amrta]

they actually don't, at least i have never felt it maybe because i wasn't an Asian. But i did feel it with the Chinese.
I didn't see if they treated Indonesian the way you have mentioned in some joint projects too.

You should see when there are no one else in the room (as in only them and us brown skin)

 

[Eyeinthesky]

TNI AL Frigate procurement update so far

*Edit: 30FFM one step closer from deal.

 

[Lordimperator]

30FFM one step closer

Nippon 3A intensifies

 

[Djketoprak]

*Edit: 30FFM one step closer from deal.

What if our Iver has similliar bridge like KCR and use fixed radar with rotating radar (like saab giraffe) on behind?? It's gonna good right??

 

[Madokafc]

Progress for coastal Defense system deal with Indonesia is in advance stage

https://mil.in.ua/uk/news/u-komplek...OL4ylNDjAqtGbfJa-OBCxrz5EuZ0L4n6AX7f1iTYKu8x4

– Так. Індонезія продовжує переговори, вони зацікавлені в нашому «Нептуні». Є ще дві країни, але переговори з ними – ще зовсім сирий початок, і про це говорити ще зарано, – розказав Коростельов.

So. Indonesia continues negotiations, they are interested in our "Neptune". There are two more countries, but negotiations with them are still a very raw start, and it is too early to talk about it, - said Korostelov.

 

[archwings]

Progress for coastal Defense system deal with Indonesia is in advance stage

https://mil.in.ua/uk/news/u-komplek...OL4ylNDjAqtGbfJa-OBCxrz5EuZ0L4n6AX7f1iTYKu8x4

– Так. Індонезія продовжує переговори, вони зацікавлені в нашому «Нептуні». Є ще дві країни, але переговори з ними – ще зовсім сирий початок, і про це говорити ще зарано, – розказав Коростельов.

So. Indonesia continues negotiations, they are interested in our "Neptune". There are two more countries, but negotiations with them are still a very raw start, and it is too early to talk about it, - said Korostelov.

i really don't understand the reasoning behind this procurement. i mean there are far better option based on whether by commonality (coastal exocet block 3) or performance (supersonic brahmos missile/stealth nsm missile).