TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

TheInsider · Mar 10, 2024

Heartbang said:
Call me pedantic if you'd like but I think these missiles need more stealth.

I agree.

boredaf · Mar 10, 2024

Heartbang said:
In this shoot-a-cruise-missile-with-manpads world of ours, it better be.

Wouldn't hurt to have stealth anti-ship missiles as well. Modern ship radars detect submarine periscopes from 30 km's!

Show me one ground launched anti-ship missile that is being produced right now that has a lower rcs, they are all more or less the same design.

Afif · Mar 10, 2024

boredaf said:
Show me one ground launched anti-ship missile that is being produced right now that has a lower rcs, they are all more or less the same design.

New Type-12 surface to ship missile has LRASM like LO feature.

Also, NSM seems to be more stealthly than Harpoon. (similar to SOM)

And then there is Sea breaker that has entered mass production after receiving contract.

boredaf · Mar 10, 2024

Afif said:
New Type-12 surface to ship missile has LRASM like LO feature.

Also, NSM seems to be more stealthly than Harpoon. (similar to SOM)

And then there is Sea breaker that has entered mass production after receiving contract.

Upgraded Type-12 is still in development, and Atmaca is also stealthier than Harpoon but I didn't know Sea Breaker went into serial production, that's the only one I'll concede.

Heartbang · Mar 11, 2024

boredaf said:
Show me one ground launched anti-ship missile that is being produced right now that has a lower rcs, they are all more or less the same design.

Ground-launched NSM.

zio · Mar 11, 2024

Recent Published video of atmaca shows that engine ignition of ktj 3200 is abit delayed and the missile lose altitute,I hopei it does not make a problem

akrepon · Mar 11, 2024

zio said:
Recent Published video of atmaca shows that engine ignition of ktj 3200 is abit delayed and the missile lose altitute,I hopei it does not make a problem

Where did you see it?

Afif · Mar 11, 2024

bruhman said:
I don't get the stealth preaching in here for anti ship missiles. They skim the sea, which is the main way to defeat ship radars as they cant look down beyond the horizon. By the time a missile is in position to be seen by radar it's close enough that no amount of stealth is gonna hide you from those powerful sensors.

That is actually true. But it helps in high-high-low flight profiles, as well as to avoid detection at ranges by enemy airborne assets.

zio · Mar 11, 2024

akrepon said:
Where did you see it?

no ignition start altough time is passed and missile lost altitute

Quasar · Mar 11, 2024

boredaf said:
Who wants to bet that we are also going to get an Hava Atmaca

No need to bet! air launched was stated but only once (Çakır was not announced by then) So not sure if it was Çakır or something else.

zio · Mar 11, 2024

Roketsan says ship,land,submarine for the platform of Atmaca missile.

Afif · Mar 11, 2024

zio said:
no ignition start altough time is passed and missile lost altitute

If you are expecting to see flame out of the nozzle you ain't gonna see one.

Also, even after jet engine starts immediately, it takes few seconds to generate sufficient thrust to keep the missile aflot. So, It will naturally drop some altitude after booster separation.

Quasar · Mar 11, 2024

zio said:
Roketsan says ship,land,submarine for the platform of Atmaca missile.

Air air launched ATMACA' Good News from Murat Ikinci 2022

chngr · Mar 11, 2024

zio said:
zaman geçmesine ve füzenin irtifa kaybetmesine rağmen ateşleme başlatılmıyor

zio · Mar 11, 2024

Afif said:
If you are expecting to see flame out of the nozzle you ain't gonna see one.

Also, even after jet engine starts immediately, it takes few seconds to generate sufficient thrust to keep the missile aflot. So, It will naturally drop some altitude after booster separation.

what is this-exocet

Afif · Mar 11, 2024

zio said:
what is this-exocet

Seems to be unique with exocet, go watch older videos of Atmaca test firings, there is no flame outs.

zio · Mar 11, 2024

Quasar said:
Air air launched ATMACA' Good News from Murat Ikinci 2022

he says medium range atmaca perhaps means çakır,but air launced exocet is also medium range,you can not use booster on air launced version,although high altitute and speed advantages.

Sanchez · Mar 11, 2024

Closeup of the Atmaca launcher.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1766913506006192337

Bogeyman · Mar 13, 2024

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1767936483476816201

NOTAM was declared in the 600 km long area between İğneada and Sinop for the test firing activity to be held in the Black Sea between 25 March and 4 April.

fushkee · Mar 13, 2024

Sonda rocket?

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