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To me Eurofighter does appear to be the only alternative unless you call Gripen E an alternative and there is no guarantee that would be deliverable in numbers in a suitable timeframe. Same problem with KF-21, I think. Even if Turkiye would buy from France, what I read from India is that it may...

I take your point. Better not to sell to any regime that oppresses its people IMO.

I'm sorry, locking up the politician most likely to defeat Erdogan in a free election was what prompted this as far as I can see. Before that and all the demonstrations that followed, Germany was agreeable to Eurofighter supply. What you say about German dislike/hatred for Turkiye being the...

If they don't, as you put it, 'give a fuck about this stuff' then why is it that they don't all want to take the profit to be made from selling Eurofighter to Turkiye?

Democracy and freedom stuff is important to the people of Europe. Some of us and some of our governments will continue to parrot it to countries wanting to buy our kit. We don't support despots. If the Turkish government wants to buy Eurofighter, there is an easy way to do that - stop behaving...

That's your view. One thing that surprises me is that in the string of responses to my post, nobody is prepared to acknowledge that what I wrote is true about Turkiye and untrue (written for effect) about the EU countries. Le Pen? Not a big deal what she did but she should have been more...

Indeed. Responsible for appalling injustices and war crimes. I find it shameful that the European countries criticise it so little and take even less action against it.

Sure. The EU countries are known for locking up politicians, making expressions of opposition to the government by the people illegal, muzzling or controlling the media, arresting journalists etc, so what right do EU countries have to oppose similar tyranny in Turkiye?

I would have.

An anti-democrat leading a democracy arrests his political rival. A democratic country chooses to embargo arms to that country suppressing its own democracy. Until things change Turkish air force will get no Eurofighters. UK needs an order for Eurofighter to keep its assembly plant alive. Not...

Looking at the rapid increase in C-390 customers recently, that looks like a big mistake. Is Turkiye in the market to buy some soon? Embraer talks of a possible 3 more customers being lined up.

UAE seems to be moving in the direction of selecting KF-21 as its next fighter. https://www.janes.com/osint-insights/defence-news/air/uae-to-comprehensively-co-operate-with-south-korea-on-kf-21-fighter

Too late now, I think. It could have done that IMO but Biden was worried about escalation and opted to grind Russia's resources down through an extended stalemate conflict. Now, with EU support, I think that continuing the attrition of Russia's military, financial and economic resources is the...

I don't have any real insight into the F-16/F-35 debate. Would it not, however, have been better to buy some Eurofighters to ensure access to something with higher performance than F-16 until KAAN arrived?

This video does suggest that Russia is suffering heavy equipment losses. Is it footage of recent actions?

https://united24media.com/latest-news/norway-to-allocate-933-million-to-train-and-equip-ukraines-nordic-baltic-brigade-7536 Around 200,000 USD to train and equip a soldier?

Believe it or not, as you will. I wonder what will happen with a Russian spring offensive, if there is one of any size. I presume that reported Russian casualties will rise...

With all these ongoing European aid packages to help Ukraine survive, Russia looks like it is going to spend itself into financial oblivion. Many of Its companies are losing money and heading for insolvency. Why is this happening? The war.