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You also need those cells for Gezgin don't you

Putting 16 cells instead of 16 side launchers might make it more compact

Don't let pride blind you. If you have no alternative, you manage best of what you can get. That's all it is.

From what I see OPV have a lot of cheaper, experimental and new solutions on them in general, so I think that's part of the intention? Because they are less critical and will mostly take on lower profile missions like against pirates etc. They are using it as an opportunity for development of...

I mean surely all of these developments are result of siper system maturing, if EIRS and CENK-S perform good, we shouldn't worry. Regardless of whether UMR is on same level as AN/ SPY-6, it seems to at least work on same principle.

O Can you see 32 more? I can't quite tell, but it could be 80 or 96 I guess. I didn't notice lack of ATMACA until you said it.

Is this the most recent? Aselsan Göksur is nice an glad to see they didn't give up 64 VLS.

And MEKO modernization

Gökdeniz for 6 Hisar, 3 İstif?

A mistake that should not happen for any cost

F15 EX: Weight:Empty weight: Approximately 43,000 pounds (19,504 kilograms). Maximum takeoff weight: 81,000 pounds (36,700 kilograms). Could be a useful estimate for current KAAN

This airframe was not even meant to fly at first. That it managed to do first flight is amazing, but I doubt pushing it into those circumstances is gonna be too wise. I'd imagine they would take the data here and do necessary modifications for flight of the second prototype that was the first...

Didn't they do just that? I mean without final design how much more useful data can they obtain?

I personally don't think this prototype will fly again, I think we will have to wait another year at least for next prototype.

That ship feels like it has sailed. They already bought number of ships and jets from France and rest of EU. If we had kept better relations after coup and offered them Milgem, the equation would be different.

A company does not just work by cumulation of engineers CVs sadly. Actual project experience is everything for a team to become truly productive. You can take this statement for every engineering project. For TF6000 i specifically said tech demonstrator and not ptototype.

Because TEI is the only company with know how, infrastructure and experience to build something like that in the country and they are basically the biggest contributor? And because TF6000 is basically the tech demonstrator for kaan engine built by TEI?

TS 1400 took 6 years for first flight. I can't imagine KAAN engine being any less even with best case scenario.

J is Joint of F35 Joint Strike Fighter program, you can see stuff like JDAM, JSOW, JSM. SOM was made with Lockeed and meant to be used with F35, it turned out dimensions of plane and munition didn't match after design went on and they made a J version. It was never integrated so now we said we...

Yes, the J stood for JSF, now it should be SOM MMU, basically.