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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    to me those Anoa, Badak, Maung, SS2, KFX ext is just the same thing in an identical process to get Not Just The Product, but also the sains or knowladge to do or create things. they just have a different level and method mau plastik mau carbon fiber mau kayu kalau dari awal sudah tau speknya...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    got the point, we are not at war. no need to buy things that too sophisticated to defend our nation. For now we should buy more PC40 and KCR 60 to increase our presence to fight those damn illegal fishing boats in South China Sea. what's the right one then?? the way i see it, normally its...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    KRI Tombak itu cannon baru atau apa itu? (New Canon or what it is?)
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    but would it be a problem knowing that Iver Huitfeldt is using Mk series?? if it does, it's kinda difficult to have 2 type of ships designed with Mk series and modify them to Sylver OR simply having 2 systems in the fleet
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    well, this means that this Egyptian war simulation could be just a part of another sales war and if it's true, then my statement or sarcasm is just fit enough for those Russian and French sales man
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    is this means you / Egypt expecting that SU35 is able to withstand a BVR combat with no support system against an enemy with ++ package (in this case is an integrated electronic warfare suite, Spectra) ??
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    "Su35 resistance against enemies jamming" if that is the case, why they make this simulation look like an air-to-air BVR combat?? why don't they put Khibiny to SU35??
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    nope, but we can choose what asset to fight the enemy if this simulation is based on their (Egypt) possible threat from other nations, Israels F35 or F15 or F16 is better. waaayy more realistic than Rafale F4/3 + Spectra
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    SU35 with no EW suite vs Rafale F4 + Spectra what a nice apple to apple configuration for a combat simulation
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Is that why you reply my post with all of those videos??? might wanna read part of my (unmentioned) comment again yes it is, but not because they didn't know about all those capability can't be performed by the F35 but because they know that TNI / Indonesia don't have a capability to buy those...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    what is it then? Interceptor? light fighter? what part of my word that said that i was dreaming about the F35?? about those network centric, ground support and bla bla bla that is why i call Rafale more costly, excample : New Missiles you guys keep mentioning about SU-35 and SU-57... you...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    which is normal if an air force want to have an entirely new plane (F35) it's the same thing that going to happened by buying Rafale or F15 that support infrastructure issue is more suitable for Rafale rather than F35 and F15 it's not that sophisticated like F35, and yet consuming a lot of money...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    the choice is not in our hands isn't it?? after CAATSA appear into our face, all i wanted is F15EX Full package to replace our plan to have the SU35 but after TNI change their option like F35 or F15EX, more problems comes up Not ready for 5th gen, no EPAWSS bla bla bla aka "banyak bacot"
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    or pretend that we have a big balls and threat them that we have to buy SU 35 cause Rafale is just not good enough as an interceptor copying India with their S400, the difference is they actually have balls they said F35A is cheaper??? seriously??
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    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    i think just the turret will be assembled in Indonesia.. Pindad will create the hull and join them together
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    imagination mode on Indonesia ask to build the submarine together, German say no, Indonesia said "Fine, but you have to finished by yyyy-mm-dd, cause if we build it together it will finishied by that time" imagination mode off please Germans, U214 is a little million dollar upgrade for one of...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    so is the EPAWSS it's normal for all advanced things to be blocked when they prioritizing it for them self. but when most of their F15 already upgraded with this things or maybe replacing F15C/D with F15EX... i think there is a possibility that they will start exporting it in the future and...
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    you mean buy it with DEWS instead of EPAWSS??? or buy EPAWSS later when they allowed / ready to export it??
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    between F15EX downgrade or secondhand F15 with steroid cause they said EPAWSS is a no no for TNI let's just hope that they want to change their decision an Original F15EX

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