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No offense to Baykar, but they remain a single product company more or less for the time being. Akinci sales are nowhere near the numbers or TB2, Kizilelma is not on sale yet. TB2 will be the cash cow for now but eventually a market is saturated, so they need to diversify and deliver some good...

Aselsan is pretty ahead and made 1bln € in the 3rd quarter alone last year (vs. Baykar 1bln € total in 2022 afaik). No complete numbers yet for 2022. TAI too is still ahead. But you know thats the kind of competition that we want to see.

https://www.politico.eu/article/sitki-ayan-recep-tayyip-erdogan-terrorism-hezbollah-iran-turkey-lebanon/

You're right, a token force is probably sufficient to keep on the island. The Greek side wouldnt dare to do anything, but politically it would be seen as a retreat, so not going to happen.

One of my favourite videos, he really does sound like an engine trying to start.

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Why is he shooting at TAI for being a government funded company? After all all / most sub systems he's using are the products and results of public R&D spending at Aselsan, TEI, Havelsan, Roketsan & Co.

Reminder: there is a thread for media around TF-X, thus in here please only news & information about the actual development.

War früher besser, vielleicht wird das mit dem nächsten Update wieder besser.

I'm afraid we might lose the edge in the Aegean in the air for a while if we decide to go that way. Some kind of deal to close the gap till TF-X can be delivered would be good to have.

We dont know the exact numbers so its difficult to guesstimate. But if Greece orders 30 (as stated in the article) and the F35 prices are expected to rise (https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2022/11/18/f-35-costs-have-been-declining-thats-about-to-change/). We could assume a price of maybe...

@Yasar where did you read about the 2024 thing? The offset deals alone will make it worthwhile to pull through with the entire deal imo.

Read the damn article instead of repeating what you saw in the headline or what one user posted. The total package that will be approved is 20bln in total, including the F35s for Greece. I dont know about the numbers but its not 20bln € just for our orders. I guess Greece and Turkey being...

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TAI is hiring approximately 1200 engineers per year. Around 400 leave the company, and 200 of those approximately go abroad every year.

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Enabling Technology of Future Warfare Defense AI in Turkey Çağlar Kurç DAIO Study 23|08 https://defenseai.eu/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/DAIO_Study2308.pdf

You can still take orders for the nationalized variant, deliveries will be later but unlike with the T-129 we will be able to honour the contract eventually.