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An interesting article why Poland chose the Korean FA-50 Fighting Eagle light fighter, among other things like Lockheed not selling them F16, but also bang for buck and similarities to F16. https://corporalfrisk.com/2022/08/20/heavy-or-rather-light-metal-in-the-south-pt-5-the-korean-bird-appears/

No Information on the timeframe as of now, but knowing its Germany, its going to be slow.

No personal attacks, no offtopic posts or its going to rain warnings and bans. We've been through this a dozen times.

Germany will deliver 255 Vulcano artillery shells with a range of around 70km to be used in the already delivered Panzerhaubitze 2000. https://soldat-und-technik.de/2022/08/bewaffnung/32586/praezisionsgelenkte-vulcano-artilleriemunition/

"We didnt get the F35 because of the S400, but even then they would not give it to us because of (insert some random mumbo-jumbo)" is such a weak argument. No substance at all imo. Its a deeply apologetic argument in defense of the (bad) decision makers with no meat on the bone. It's entirely...

This was always my favourite option, but was never really considered AFAIK: https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2017/02/08/new-terms-offered-for-a-turkish-meads-missile-defense-system/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_Extended_Air_Defense_System

1m per SOM seems high to me, what do comparable cruise missiles cost? Could that be the export price and the Turkish forces get other conditions?

No dehumanizing, some minimal respect is required even for your opponents.

Not really multimedia, but for a lack of better threads I'll post it here: https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/turkiye-appoints-1st-female-general-to-serve-in-army/news

Watch your tongues, it is possible to criticize Syria, the SNA, Assad, Arabs, Saudis etc without calling an entire race savages or inuman.

Guys, let's focus on the topic.

Regarding emigration of doctors and brain drain in general:

Dams wont save anything, they can go dry too. Look at Lake Mead in the US.

Please dont make a thread about it, we're not interested in conspiracy theories. There's a fine line between opinions and spamming every thread with your theories. Add sources, post something substantial, at least have some flesh on the bone. And if it's not relevant for the topic, derailing...

I have not watched the interview, but TAI / TUSAS CEO has said multiple times that they are already working on it, but technically there will be a tender to determine who gets the contract. I guess at this point its more formality than anything else and Ismail Demirs comment seems to confirm...

This thread is about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, please stick to the topic.

I was thinking the same, must be very expensive. I personally prefer a good bang to buck ratio over overengineered shells that cost 1m € per piece. Excalibur is already supposed to cost 100k Dollars per shell.

Ok quick reminder for everyone, this is a serious defence forum. This is no place to spew out your hatred, pipe dreams or pure speculation. Opinions are welcome, but if your posts are reaching conspiracy levels they will not be tolerated. Might want to try Facebook for that...

On maybe related news, Boeing & Nammo have successfully tested its ramjet powered artillery projectile. https://breakingdefense.com/2022/08/boeing-nammo-successfully-test-ramjet-air-breathing-longer-distance-artillery/

Well the Americans said dont strike Russia with the HIMARS and Ukraine did just that. ;)