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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    i think we haven't even pay 100% of all those "upgrade to block 52++" yet..... about when is our turn, i think pushing more on those F15EX is a better option
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    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    Is ILSV doesn't satisfied them?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    Elang Hitam aint gonna be for military usage anymore right? that's the reason why TNI buying Anka from Turkey
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    hmphhhh, just say "i already pay my taxes" simple
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    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    in which variant? previously i check wiki said it 3kg, it does said that "The warhead contains 1.02 kg (2.25 lb) of HTA-3"
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    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    sadly it ain't that great compared to Stinger less range, less speed, less warhead
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    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    no details about it's power to weight? hope it strong enough to face our rough terrain....
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    is it also gonna be used for the Rafale? or just F16 and F15?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Strategic Industries

    but expecting it will come with at least STANAG level 2 like the Humvee wont be too much right?
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    about that one, i believe it still normal for Mathadinata to use Milenium gun, air defense / fleet air defense isn't that ship specialty anyway. they should use a new and bigger platform and turn it to a real air defense asset, 2/3 CIWS with a lot of combo of short, med, long range air defense...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    i dont think they gonna do it.... even light frigate like Mathadinata class only got Oerlikon Millennium.... it's good? it fit?? yes, but budget vs protected asset compared to the one that already exist, didn't thinks so talking about CIWS, i just saw that oerlikon is planned for CIWS on the...
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    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    they took a different angle to avoid the rudder jokes huh? :cautious:
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Embargo proof.... :D how in the h**l they can embargo something that we don't even received yet? if it happen it would be something like VL Mica or else....
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    it took to long, they need something that can be received fast
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    how about modify it so it will able to launch AIM9x? that way we dont have to buy more MICA air-launch version, something like what India have done
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    let's just hope that this Mirage 2000 is actually better than those dusty F16 at least the F16 already being polished, but right now we don't hear any plan to do the same thing to this Mirage 2000 do we?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    yes, all the way back since 2009 and all the sudden secondhand F16 came in. which why it's kind weird that they would go for it while we already trying to buy something even better. Mirage 2000
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    at least we can discuss it first, many of us and all the silent reader didn't know that things yet... the CPFH, logistical things and bla bla bla that none of you even trying to discuss there are a lot things that can make this discussion even more interesting.
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    owh come on, i said nothing but not exactly nothing bro i'm not against those Rafale F4, im not against TNI plan for a secondhand plane as a stop gap but why it had to be a that choice? are you saying that there are 100% no other options or even possibilities beside that Mirage 2000?
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    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    1. which is why it sound kind a weird. Buying an expensive old things for a short period mainly caused by a political stuff??? how much short are our inventory that make us have to buy it? if it have to be fast, why don't we just buy something that we already have? or at least something like...

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