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We will certainly continue to punch above our weight in defense industry but there's no way we could be in the same class with those two in any other segments. You need to have the economy for that.

Not to derail, but China is heading for a collapse with a 50% decrease in population by 2065. The U.S. is increasingly having internal issues with Latins becoming the dominant ethnic group.

Both China and the U.S. will decrease in power in the long-term, however, they will remain in their own league. Turkiye will be a lagging 3rd but will be able to outplay them in certain theatres
 

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The Turks had more Empires in their history than most or everyone else.
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He was saying, By 2030 Turkey would be next to USA and China.

Which is, as @Rodeo pointed out, seems unrealistic.
 

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We will certainly continue to punch above our weight in defense industry but there's no way we could be in the same class with those two in any other segments. You need to have the economy for that.

You can have that economy with good leadership. If things go well for us and go bad for others then your ranking can go up fast.
 

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You don't need to insult me to get your point across.

He was saying, By 2030 Turkiye would be next to USA and China.

Which is, as @Rodeo pointed out, seems unrealistic.
India is in third position now, what is the big deal.
 

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You can have that economy with good leadership. If things go well for us and go bad for others then your ranking can go up fast.
You mean every economy in the G20 will be destroyed but Turkey is somehow immune? Sure, why not? If we can be that imaginative, there's also the possibility of Yellowstone eruption and terminating the US as we know it. I heard it's about time.

Edit: I should clarify. The Yellowstone caldera erupts between every 600.000 and 800.000 years. And the last eruption was 631.000 years ago. The possibility of the super volcano going berserk and killing every soul on American continents is higher than Turkiye becoming the top 3 economy in the world. Unfortunately, the reasons pertaining to the population size, territory, geography, culture, environment etc. make it impossible for us.
 
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You mean every economy in the G20 will be destroyed but Turkiye is somehow immune? Sure, why not? If we can be that imaginative, there's also the possibility of Yellowstone eruption and terminating the US as we know it. I heard it's about time.
Many countries are already developed to the point they can but not Türkiye. Türkiye still has a lot of unrealized potential. Being in the center of the world geography, can you not see how Istanbul became the most connected aviation hub. Türkiye is closer to markets than any other nation in the world. Add to that the untapped potential of the Central Asia nations. Along with nations in and around the region Türkiye has the potential to fourfold its current economy and influence.
 

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Many countries are already developed to the point they can but not Türkiye. Türkiye still has a lot of unrealized potential. Being in the center of the world geography, can you not see how Istanbul became the most connected aviation hub. Türkiye is closer to markets than any other nation in the world. Add to that the untapped potential of the Central Asia nations. Along with nations in and around the region Türkiye has the potential to fourfold its current economy and influence.
I would be very happy if we were in the top ten economy in one or two decades. It's a worthy goal to strive for. But I cannot imagine or reason the top three. It would just be a wish with no concrete plan to put into action.
 

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I would be very happy if we were in the top ten economy in one or two decades. It's a worthy goal to strive for. But I cannot imagine or reason the top three. It would just be a wish with no concrete plan to put into action.
It looks ambitious alright but being a great power does not mean being an economy power alone, think of a combination of economy and military. Now look at the below chart to see which economies have reached their maximum potential and which ones have room to go. Chart numbers are indices for simplification. Blue is PPP GDP, orange is nominal GDP.

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I would be very happy if we were in the top ten economy in one or two decades. It's a worthy goal to strive for. But I cannot imagine or reason the top three. It would just be a wish with no concrete plan to put into action.
Türkiye Cumhuriyeti can't

But larger Turkic Union can

Maybe it will become a commonwealth including Turkic countries and former Ottoman countries or even ltaly and spain after the fall of EU
 
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Even if Turkiye will in the top 10 most powerful states in the world, it would be enough for me.
If Türkiye Cumhuriyeti economy 10th

We will be 4-5th most powerful states in the world

Some countries had larger economy dont/cant be powerful because of US control or much peaceful
 

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I would be very happy if we were in the top ten economy in one or two decades. It's a worthy goal to strive for. But I cannot imagine or reason the top three. It would just be a wish with no concrete plan to put into action.
According to reports, we can expect progress for Turkey after 2030

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According to reports, we can expect progress for Turkiye after 2030

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i really doubt Indonesia would be behind turkey in 2040/2050.
 

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