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What does Islam have to do with this? Islam is against slavery. Anyway, we don't hear much shouting when a black person enslaves another black
Eh nope, Islam has a long history with slavery and every islamic empire traded with slaves, even today in some parts of Islamic world its common to hold slaves including but not limited to modern slavery in Gulf countries.

Here is a Wiki article if you want.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world#

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Just stating some facts since there seem to be misinformation going on here.
 

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Was nice to go to holiday in Turkey, after 5 years missed a lot things. I loved it no social media for 3 weeks :D. I managed put the phone down.
I was last year CHF was 16.5 back then now its almost 31, i should go again. :LOL:
 

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"Atatürk founded the Republic in 1923, our slave market was closed in Üsküdar at that time, do you know?
We, as Muslims, owe the closure of the slave markets to the 'infidels' in quotation marks. So, this chapter was closed with the Republican era."

@Xenon54

Öztürk said that with the innovation movement in the Tanzimat period, it was said, 'Let's prevent this', but that all slave marketers rebelled because 'they have a place in the Shari'a in the Qur'an'.
 

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Atatürk founded the Republic in 1923, our slave market was closed in Üsküdar at that time, do you know? We, as Muslims, owe the closure of the slave markets to the 'infidels' in quotation marks. So, this chapter was closed with the Republican era.
Thats new to me, there was slave market in Istanbul until 1923?
 

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Eh nope, Islam has a long history with slavery and every islamic empire traded with slaves, even today in some parts of Islamic world its common to hold slaves including but not limited to modern slavery in Gulf countries.

Here is a Wiki article if you want.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world#

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Just stating some facts since there seem to be misinformation going on here.
Administrator says not to discuss about religion and even if he didn't say that im not gonna reply to this crap you mentioned . Good night my bro who know nothing about real world and takes his shhity information from Wikipedia ✌️🖐
 

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Administrator says not to discuss about religion and even if he didn't say that im not gonna reply to this crap you mentioned . Good night my bro who know nothing about real world and takes his shhity information from Wikipedia ✌️🖐
Ok my all knowing bro.
 

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"Atatürk founded the Republic in 1923, our slave market was closed in Üsküdar at that time, do you know?
We, as Muslims, owe the closure of the slave markets to the 'infidels' in quotation marks. So, this chapter was closed with the Republican era."

@Xenon54

Öztürk said that with the innovation movement in the Tanzimat period, it was said, 'Let's prevent this', but that all slave marketers rebelled because 'they have a place in the Shari'a in the Qur'an'.
Despite two clear warnings from @TR_123456 you're still going about it. If you have a personal problem with Islam which you obviously have insufficient knowledge about, I suggest that you kindly take it somewhere else.
 

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Eh nope, Islam has a long history with slavery and every islamic empire traded with slaves, even today in some parts of Islamic world its common to hold slaves including but not limited to modern slavery in Gulf countries.

Just stating some facts since there seem to be misinformation going on here.

Quran says clearly that all forms of slavery is banned. stop spreading this liberal awesomeness shit.

You want some fact ? Take this

Turkey the Secular the Liberal the Democratic is ranked at 5 in the global slavery index 2023 , worst than Russia and UAE

 

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Guys I bought the Ottoman armies of 1820 to 1914 for kindle.

Any ideas in circumventing amazons drm. I cant download it to pdf.

I really want to share this book with everybody. I feel like history books should be shared.
 

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Guys I bought the Ottoman armies of 1820 to 1914 for kindle.

Any ideas in circumventing amazons drm. I cant download it to pdf.

I really want to share this book with everybody. I feel like history books should be shared.

you can use calibre , used to id a while ago, don't know if still works, check this out
hope it helps .
seems like the best option for now is this software: https://www.epubor.com/, then just find a serial on the net that's it, there a lot of crack around but most probably o good chunk of them has virus inside. my tip is the to create a windows container inside a linux box and run all that crap inside the container . no risk
 
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you can use calibre , used to id a while ago, don't know if still works, check this out
hope it helps .

Im reading the comments how amazon made the drm really hard to strip out.

Such dogs to be honest. If I buy a book regardless if its paper or ebook I have a right to share it with people.

This is what its come down to what a shame. Monopoly of knowledge and education because of Money.

Jeff Bezos I hope you burn in hell.
 

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The earthquake scientists have been very vocal the last few weeks, warning great Istanbul earthquake could happen any time now. Just when I was brooding over it, a 3.9 magnitude earthquake happened in Marmara sea. 250 years of built-up pressure could break the locked fault line very soon and we could face the greatest calamity ever since the WW1.

Am I the only one who thinks that significant percentage of our GDP should be allocated to speed up the earthquake readiness as much as possible? Doesn't matter if it will impede our economic growth or anything. Istanbul earthquake is the biggest threat we have to face and we are far far from being ready.
 
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The earthquake scientists have been very local the last few weeks, warning great Istanbul earthquake could happen any time now. Just when I was brooding over it, a 3.9 magnitude earthquake happened in Marmara sea. 250 years of accumulated pressure could break the locked fault line very soon and we could face the greatest calamity ever since the WW1.

Am I the only one who thinks that significant percentage of our GDP should be allocated to speed up the earthquake readiness as much as possible? Doesn't matter if it will impede our economic growth or anything. Istanbul earthquake is the biggest threat we have to face and we are far far from being ready.
It is my firm belief that any sector that doesn't require serious logistics should be transferred to small towns around Ankara. They should be in their own campuses which have its own social life, but also within reaching distance to Ankara. Other light industry assets should be distributed across Inner Anatolia.

It pains me to see no extensive railroad infrastructure that covers the entire central Anatolian plain. If we had set up that, and then connected it to Mersin-Adana-Hatay area, then we could theoretically transfer our largest sea exit to those ports instead of Istanbul. This would ameliorate (not entirely solve) our problem with Greek 12 mile problems.

It is my firm belief that we need our country organized around Marmara-Inner Anatolia-Çukurova axis. Western Anatolia and the areas around Antalya are prime farming grounds. Especially the ones around rivers.

Western Black Sea region will have a very good climate with climate change. Whole area could be utilized as our retirement province. It would reinvigorate the economy arund there.

The real crazy stuff I imagine is about diverting Euphrates to Central Anatolia but that's a far, far dream.
 
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