TR 2023 Turkish presidential election

[guest12]

Didn't Muharrem İnce also said something similar?

I dont think i remember something like that , if i did i would share it here too.I am targeting all politicians regardless their side in my posts.

 

[Heartbang]

Yup, as I said before
Kilicdaroglu is guaranteed to win the election... hands down

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652586498837889026

3 percent makes about 1.925 million people. There are over 4 million civil servants in this country. Their voting patterns are consistent(read: they vote for the incumbents) and they explicitly shy away from opinion polls.

Make of that what you will.

 

[Lool]

Baykar is on the attack again


Translation:
You said for us, "I will produce and no one else will".

Before Baykar, Türkiye was buying UAVs from Israel. Baykar produced UAVs, competed with the Israeli company, and supplied Turkey with higher quality UAVs at a cost of 1/10.

Currently, there are 7 companies, one of which is a foundation company, producing UAVs in Turkey.

Baykar outperformed US, Israeli and Chinese companies in the competition and exported to 30 countries. It became the world's largest UAV exporter.

Baykar has so far made all of its R&D investment with its own funds. He did not receive a penny of government grants or bank loans. It earned 75% of all its revenues, and 99.3% of its revenues this year, from exports. 2022 exports are 1.2 billion dollars.

Baykar's share in total defense expenditures in Turkey is below 1%. More than 4,000 UAV teams compete every year in Teknofest, organized under the leadership of Baykar.

Brand new tech companies are born

Could you show us another similar example from Turkey and the world, not you? Does Baykar run away from competition?

I wish you had not distorted the truth while supporting (!).

Should we be a US company for a relentless support?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652422475047739392

 

[Lool]

Another attack post by Baykar

Translation:
Mr. Kılıçdaroğlu, you mentioned our names again today, you said that you support us even though we have not felt it very much until today.

Despite this, you didn't answer the question why you raised your deputies in Diyarbakır, İzmir and Malatya lists, who called National SİHAs jitem, slandered us to steal human resources from state companies, and lied that we received money from the municipality.

When Sezgin Tanrıkulu's name was mentioned, you ignored it. Our late Father had complained to you about these slanders by letter and on the phone years ago, but you remained insensitive at that time.

Finally, when you threw another slander, our father Özdemir Bey sued you and the court sentenced you to compensation. He also bequeathed that the amount to be won be donated to the families of the martyrs.

We present this inconsistent state of yours to the appreciation of our nation. Our problem is not politics. You do your politics. We are concerned about not violating our right, the law of our nation.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652418549976121345

 

[Heartbang]

I dont think i remember something like that , if i did i would share it here too.I am targeting all politicians regardless their side in my posts.

Sorry, I confused him with Umit Ozdag.

 

[Lool]

This is one hell of a rally

I think kilicdaroglu attracted way more people in this rally
A nice psychological move by kilicdaroglu to make his rally's just after Erdogan's to send a psychological message

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652656556922617857

 

[Rooxbar]

Just do the math; CHP was 22 last time, they have definitely gained votes. İYİ is around 10, HDP is around 10; that's like 45% already given (worst case, because CHP has definitely gained more than 3 percentage points). Getting the remaining 5% or 4% from TİP, Gelecek, DEVA, Saadet, Oğan and İnce voters, etc. is almost certain. Looking at the aggregate of proper respectable polls (eliminating the anomalies and the ones we know are partisan like Optimar, AREDA, Avrasya, GENAR, TAG), you get about 4-6 percentage lead for KK in the first round. There are polling firms who got pretty close in 2019 municipal elections, and people were mocking them for calling the race for Yavaş and İmamoğlu back then. Good scientific polling is nothing to scoff at.

 

[Lool]

What filling the Country with unwanted people does to a rally.

I didnt get what you mean

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

I didnt get what you mean

I meant that filling the country with refugees/illegal immigrants is a big reason why this rally is so big. Of course there are many other reasons as well.

 

[Sanchez]

A CHP rally in Izmir is always bound to big and red.

Just do the math; CHP was 22 last time, they have definitely gained votes. İYİ is around 10, HDP is around 10; that's like 45% already given (worst case, because CHP has definitely gained more than 3 percentage points). Getting the remaining 5% or 4% from TİP, Gelecek, DEVA, Saadet, Oğan and İnce voters, etc. is almost certain. Looking at the aggregate of proper respectable polls (eliminating the anomalies and the ones we know are partisan like Optimar, AREDA, Avrasya, GENAR, TAG), you get about 4-6 percentage lead for KK in the first round. There are polling firms who got pretty close in 2019 municipal elections, and people were mocking them for calling the race for Yavaş and İmamoğlu back then. Good scientific polling is nothing to scoff at.

That's one way to surmise that. Other is, Erdogan's 52% in 2018 translates to 47% in 2023 in regards to demographic changes in the country, people dying, new voters etc. Erdogan needs to keep that 47% and also get 3% more.

 

[Lool]

Damn
Erdogan is gonna lose this so bad

 

[TR_123456]

Watch your mouth. We are talking in educative manner. If you can't handle, please leave..

As for your text . let have look and answer with your POV

- I don't hurt the German society by any means and never did. Turks are here since the early 60 and got INVITED. And jet there is no serious demographic change,

Well not correct , you can find plenty of Turks who didn't adapt or caused very much problem in society of Germany. you can find gang, drugs dealers, killers, many type of Turks in germany. so just because of their deed should Germany also globalize all Turks as bad ??? i mean by your it is because you implicated about refugees and immigrants in Turkey. That way.

- there is no serious demographic change, why? Because Turks in Reply Germany don't breed like there is no tomorrow,

Again, nor very correct if you put your definition on this text. Because from 60s Turkish population is on the raise and will ve very large in 2040 . Turks also change demographic by introduction to their culture and food chain. So how many Doner shops are in Germany ??? Was Doner popular pre Turkish times ?? This also called demographical cultural change in someway. your claim as if not is very irrelevant on this matter. that's why you sound odd.

You are comparing apples to oranges.
There is a difference between immigrants and refugees.
This thread is not the place to discuss this issue,after you have read this,all off topics will be deleted.

 

[Heartbang]

I think kilicdaroglu attracted way more people in this rally

The stage Kılıçdaroğlu's destined to speak was already there when Erdoğan was speaking. i marked it in orange down there.

Seems like the municipality allocated the same space to both of them...

...And both of them managed to fill it up to the brim. It wouldn't be credible to determine election results from this.

 

[TheInsider]

İzmir is a CHP stronghold. CHP will smoke AKP in İzmir.

 

[dBSPL]

2018 Ince rally was legendary, I think it will remain the most crowded rally in Izmir history. CHP already gets 45-50 per cent of the vote on its own. Since Akşener and Demirtaş are not candidates, the Millet alliance will get over 60% of the votes here. AKP's vote here is in the range of 25-30. Except for a few districts, there is no constituency where he can compete head-to-head. Since they are a right-wing bloc as an alliance, their total vote will be around 35%. If Ince and Oğan's votes exceed 5%, I think they will get an equal share from both sides. AKP's vote depots are not on the Aegean coast. If CHP can make a significant difference in the Black Sea and sompe part of Anadolu as well as in earthquake-affected areas, the colour of the game will change. I think Istanbul will be very close again.

 

[Lool]

You forgot one thing Kılıçdaroğlu started this race with a %10+ margin over Erdogan. Now it is down to %3. All of the recent polls show several percent difference between two candidates. Erdogan is catching up and there are still two weeks left. Kılıçdaroğlu is still the favorite candidate to win elections but %3 is hardly a comfortable lead and look at how much the vote difference has shrunk in a short time. At this point, anything can happen.

You are right but you also should admit that the reason for the sudden comeback for Erdogan is his fancy projects. As you said, AKP's political campaign has been by far better than Kilicdaroglu's but the sad fact is that these fancy projects didnt give him the necessary "extra" boost
Erdogan doesnt have any fancy projects that can attract attention other than the TFX and that is it

On the other hand, kilicdaroglu is now starting to warm up the gears for a fight so I suspect no more vote reduction for Kilicdaroglu. Therefore, I cant see how Erdogan is gonna win

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652656951140990976

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652665052317597696

 

[dBSPL]

HDP Green Left Party candidates detained as a result of the MLKP(armed terrorist organization) operation.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652579233959485440

HDP has one good aspect: It gathers all the terrorists in the country like a beehive. (except for neo-Islamist terrorist organisations like Fetö, they play a bigger game.)

 

[Rooxbar]

Is that guy's name really Müslüm Koyun or is it my eyes deceiving me?

 

[Rodeo]

Would this elections be the end of Erdoğan's political career if he lost? How would he adapt, what would he change? I cannot imagine him becoming the opposition party's leader. It feels so alien.