Defence Fair Aero India 2021

[sarthak]

Official website of the aero india 2021

Aero India 2021

aeroindia.gov.in

And export booklet for it

 

[sarthak]

There is an export booklet of Indian systems being shown in aero india that are up for export in the website if anybody is interested somewhy I can't attach it.

 

[Nilgiri]

There is an export booklet of Indian systems being shown in aero india that are up for export in the website if anybody is interested somewhy I can't attach it.

It is right here if ppl wanna dload:

Defence ExportsDepartment of Defence Production

The Department of Defence Production was founded in 1962 under the Ministry of Defence and is concerned with the framing of policy directions on defence and security related matters and communicating them for implementation to the Services Headquarters, and other organisations under the ministry.

www.ddpmod.gov.in

as "Export booklet"

I think its too big to attach here.

 

[sarthak]

CATS (combat air teaming system) is the most important display here I think if it's successful Indian aviation will transformed in the next decade it has 3 parts

India's Combat Teaming Drones Emerge At AeroIndia 2021 - Livefist

The Aero India show this week at the IAF's Yelahanka air base already has its core flavour nailed -- a mammoth and long-awaited deal for 83 LCA Tejas Mk1A and trainer fighters that will be signed during the show -- but a quick jaunt around the stalls has thrown up…

www.livefistdefence.com

There are 3 parts
1 CATS ALFA S it will be a swarm drone system deployed from a pod
2 CATS hunter cruise missile with 2 different type of seeker
3 CATS warrior unmanned wingman
TEJAS or sepecat Jaguar will be our CATS max(mothership)

 

[sarthak]

A320 based aew&c iaf is looking to acquire upto 6 of these.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1355883041885851650

 

[sarthak]

6 a320 will need acquired from air India and modified with what seems like an improved netra radar

 

[Nilgiri]

A320 based aew&c iaf is looking to acquire upto 6 of these.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1355883041885851650

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Hmmm so they aren't going for a radome? Disappointing... but maybe they are putting an extra radar in the nose for full 360 coverage.

 

[Raptor]

More clearer picture of the loyal wingman

 

[sarthak]

Tejas would be unmanned too ig

Unmanned Tejas I don't think so. do you have something on it?

 

[Nilgiri]

Given activity, I have pinned the thread for now.

 

[sarthak]

Hmmm so they aren't going for a radome? Disappointing... but maybe they are putting an extra radar in the nose for full 360 coverage.

Radome would introduce pointless complexity now in day and age of aesa it will be there fixed aesa radar like the ones on e 7 wedgetail

 

[Nilgiri]

Hmmm so they aren't going for a radome? Disappointing... but maybe they are putting an extra radar in the nose for full 360 coverage.

Nvm I see an extra hump patch for the 360...probably where they gonna put one extra radar array for total of 3...3x120 = 360...basically kind of separated wedgetail. Interesting

 

[Nilgiri]

Radome would introduce pointless complexity now in day and age of aesa it will be there fixed aesa radar like the ones on e 7 wedgetail

I am talking about the coverage, having just 2 (like netra) would give 240 ish degree coverage....and would be waste of larger size and endurance of a320.

 

[Indos]

The CATS program would have unmanned mothership with Alfa-S and loyal wingman being network centric with artificial intelligence they are autonomous and don't need any seat

Can the drone launch AAM ?

 

[Raptor]

Unmanned Tejas I don't think so. do you have something on it?

Oopsie,can't say anything rn,let's wait for more updates,but i think making them completely unmanned would be better and you don't need to develop life support system and human interface

 

[sarthak]

Nice, I think it is the first big model of AMCA. The design is already fixed.


I believe the fighter should be dual seat to better manage and control wingman drone. It could possibly have around 4 wingman drones for one 5 generation fighter

I agree twin seater aircraft would allow for the most optimal use of these unmanned systems. In fact iaf intends to develop a twin seater lift (lead in fighter trainer) variant of Tejas possibly upto 100. I think that would serve as the mothership for cats system after after jaguar starts going out.

 

[Raptor]

Can the drone launch AAM ?

Initially,it would only have laser guided bombs,air to surface
Future versions of the platform will also be able to fire air-to-air missiles to target enemy fighters.

 

[sarthak]

Oopsie,can't say anything rn,let's wait for more updates,but i think making them completely unmanned would be better and you don't need to develop life support system and human interface

The level data networking for an unmanned Tejas controlled from ground station and then in turn control multiple drones would be insane I don't think iaf would go for unmanned fighter before 2035

 

[Raptor]

The level data networking for an unmanned Tejas controlled from ground station and then in turn control multiple drones would be insane I don't think iaf would go for unmanned fighter before 2035

Well yeah you're right,and it says Manned-Unmanned team which gives rise to certainty that mothership would be manned.

 

[Raptor]

Hope now these move from mockup to actual prototypes and then enter production without delays