TR Air Defence Programs

[Cabatli_TR]

Perhaps we'll see a Siper II with the Akdogan as the main missile, fitted with a booster for 150km+ range.

“Akdoğan” will be continuation of “doğan” AA missiles and Akdoğan as being a bird in hawk family is the biggest one. You know The Tübitak SAGE changed the names of Bozdoğan and Gökdoğan amongst themselves a while ago because They needed to give proper names in accordance to size and characteristics of the birds. The smaller “Doğan” represents the short range missile and the biggest one should represent a missile with better performance than current Göktuğ family missiles. I think Akdoğan will be Meteor equivalent ramjet AA missile.

 

[adenl]

There were plans to equip the TF-X with Meteor missiles. I guess the Akdogan is going to change that.

 

[Reviewbrah]

“Akdoğan” will be continuation of “doğan” AA missiles and Akdoğan as being a bird in hawk family is the biggest one. You know The Tübitak SAGE changed the names of Bozdoğan and Gökdoğan amongst themselves a while ago because They needed to give proper names in accordance to size and characteristics of the birds. The smaller “Doğan” represents the short range missile and the biggest one should represent a missile with better performance than current Göktuğ family missiles. I think Akdoğan will be Meteor equivalent ramjet AA missile.

If Akdoğan is going to be a ramjet air to air missile, I hope we don't give shorter names (reporting name) to our missiles yet because NATO gonna give us ones for free It would be good PR

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1331280095395373059

Latest status. Ramjet and Trisonic windtunnel move.

 

[azaher77]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1331174182210695171

 

[Huelague]

If Akdoğan is going to be a ramjet air to air missile, I hope we don't give shorter names (reporting name) to our missiles yet because NATO gonna give us ones for free It would be good PR

Boring!
We want to see live firing test of MANPAD Porsav

 

[Huelague]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1331174182210695171

What means the second one?

 

[Test7]

Turkey May Refuse Further Supply of S-400 Systems​

Turkey may not buy additional S-400 air defense systems to be in good books with the United States and due to the latter's pressure to reject the Russian equipment.

"A situation may arise that (the USA - IF) will put conditions on Turkey that it cannot refuse. And then it may see a more profitable opportunity for deepening cooperation with the United States, including on missile defense," Alexei Davydov, a researcher at the Center for Middle East Studies at the Institute of World Economy and International Relations of the Russian Academy of Sciences, was quoted as saying by Interfax.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan however said a month ago that Turkey will not abandon the S-400s fearing U.S. sanctions. On October 24, the official representative of the Turkish defense ministry, Nadide Sebnem Aktop, revealed the systems would be put on alert regardless of the possibility of integration with the NATO air defense system.

The U.S.-Turkey tensions skyrocketed after the latter bought the S-400 systems from Russia for $2.5 billion in 2017. Washington’s attempts to persuade Ankara to ditch the systems went in vain. Soon after Russia began shipping the S-400s to Turkey in July 2019, the U.S. struck off Turkey’s name from the list of F-35 program partners.

 

[Zafer]

It depends on the threat level; as long as our capabilities stay under the level required to counter developing threats we will not hesitate to source more systems from wherever we can, Russia is the top choice as of now.

 

[adenl]

ASELSAN ilk HERİKKS-VI teslimatını gerçekleştirdi | SavunmaSanayiST

ASELSAN tarafından Türk Kara Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı’na yönelik ilk Hava Savunma Erken İkaz ve Komuta Kontrol Sistemi (HERİKKS-VI) teslimatı gerçekleştirildi.

www.savunmasanayist.com

ASELSAN made its first HERİKKS-VI delivery.

ASELSAN delivered the first Air Defense Early Warning and Command Control System (HERİKKS-VI) to the Turkish Land Forces Command.

The Air Defense Early Warning and Command Control System (HERİKKS) is used to carry out the air defense activities of the Land Forces Command and to fulfill the command and control task for air defense units from the army level to the level of the division commander effectively and quickly. For this purpose, the Air Defense Early Warning and Command Control System (HERİKKS-VI) Command Control Equipment and Information Equipment Contract was signed between the Ministry of National Defense and ASELSAN on December 21, 2016.

The first delivery of the contract was completed with the acceptance tests conducted with the participation of the representatives of the Ministry of National Defense and the Land Forces Command. With the delivery of HERİKKS-VI, the integration of new air defense systems (HİSAR-A, HİSAR-O, KORKUT, AİC, BKKM, KALKAN, Portable Missile) to the HERİKKS system is ensured, and information exchange with other command control systems within the Turkish Armed Forces and NATO ability is gained. In this way, the air defense efficiency of the Land Forces Command is significantly increased.

Air Defense Early Warning and Command Control System HERİKKS creates a real-time weather picture by combining the information received from air defense radars and ensures the most appropriate target-weapon allocations with the Threat Assessment and Weapon Allocation algorithm. The system has been actively used since 2001.

HERİKKS includes integrated command control units, air defense weapons, air defense radars, communication units and air defense system software. The system has an open architecture suitable for the integration of different types of radar and weapon systems and a modular hardware and software infrastructure operating in a distributed architecture.

General features:
Real time fused aerial image
Manual, semi-automatic and automatic target-weapon matches
Control of the airspace
Providing situational awareness
Information of friendly / enemy units Information on the battlefield
Methodological Control Measures
Tactical Data Link (Link-16, JREAP-C, Link-11B, Link-1) capabilities
Flexible Configuration
Electronic warfare resistant and fast TASMUS communication infrastructure
Embedded simulation capability
Moving working ability
Open infrastructure for the integration of different types of radar and weapon systems

 

[Quasar]

totaly off topic but can you imagine when I was asteğmen at Çekmeköy hava savunma okulu in 2003 all we have seen were as follows

40mm M42A1/ A2

40 mm Bofors

20 mm orlikon

35 mm orlikon

Stingers

zıpkın

HERİKKS​

Kalkan radar

Turna target drone

 

[adenl]

totaly off topic but can you imagine when I was asteğmen at Çekmeköy hava savunma okulu in 2003 all we have seen were as follows

40mm M42A1/ A2

40 mm Bofors

20 mm orlikon

35 mm orlikon

Stingers

zıpkın

HERİKKS​

Kalkan radar

Turna target drone

And what do you have now

 

[Yasar_TR]

https://www.foi.se/rest-api/report/FOI-R--4651--SE

quote:
The S-400 anti-aircraft system is often said to have a 400-km range and be capable of intercepting a gamut of targets, from lumbering transport aircraft to agile fighter jets and cruise missiles, and even ballistic missiles. In fact, the missile with a purported 400-km range, the 40N6, is not yet operational and has been plagued by problems in development and testing. In its current configuration, the S-400 system should mainly be considered a threat to large high-value aircraft such as AWACS or transport aircraft at medium to high altitudes, out to a range of 200-250 km. In contrast, the effective range against agile fighter jets and cruise missiles operating at low altitudes can be as little 20- 35 km. Moreover, despite its sophistication, an S-400 battery is dependent on a single engagement radar and has a limited number of firing platforms. It is thus vulnerable both to munitions targeting its engagement radar and to saturation attacks. If and when the 40N6 missile goes online, its 400-km technical range cannot be effectively exploited against targets below approximately 3000 meters unless target data can be provided and updated during the missile’s flight by airborne or forward-deployed radars. Such a capability – often known as Cooperative Engagement – has only recently been successfully achieved by the U.S. Navy, and is a highly complex and demanding endeavour that Russia should not be expected to master within 10-15 years.
unquote.
According to this Swedish report S-400 system is not quite what the Russians say it is. The so called 400 km missile is not really fully operational.
The report really runs it down to ground. It is published on March 2019. So it is fairly new!
Against a plane like F16, it claims, the best it can achieve is 25-30km kill distance.
Quite long but worth a read.
I would like to hear the insider view of this system from our S-400 batallion guys.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://www.foi.se/rest-api/report/FOI-R--4651--SE

quote:
The S-400 anti-aircraft system is often said to have a 400-km range and be capable of intercepting a gamut of targets, from lumbering transport aircraft to agile fighter jets and cruise missiles, and even ballistic missiles. In fact, the missile with a purported 400-km range, the 40N6, is not yet operational and has been plagued by problems in development and testing. In its current configuration, the S-400 system should mainly be considered a threat to large high-value aircraft such as AWACS or transport aircraft at medium to high altitudes, out to a range of 200-250 km. In contrast, the effective range against agile fighter jets and cruise missiles operating at low altitudes can be as little 20- 35 km. Moreover, despite its sophistication, an S-400 battery is dependent on a single engagement radar and has a limited number of firing platforms. It is thus vulnerable both to munitions targeting its engagement radar and to saturation attacks. If and when the 40N6 missile goes online, its 400-km technical range cannot be effectively exploited against targets below approximately 3000 meters unless target data can be provided and updated during the missile’s flight by airborne or forward-deployed radars. Such a capability – often known as Cooperative Engagement – has only recently been successfully achieved by the U.S. Navy, and is a highly complex and demanding endeavour that Russia should not be expected to master within 10-15 years.
unquote.
According to this Swedish report S-400 system is not quite what the Russians say it is. The so called 400 km missile is not really fully operational.
The report really runs it down to ground. It is published on March 2019. So it is fairly new!
Against a plane like F16, it claims, the best it can achieve is 25-30km kill distance.
Quite long but worth a read.
I would like to hear the insider view of this system from our S-400 batallion guys.

Do you think they will be used in standolene if it goes out to war? Really?

 

[adenl]

https://www.foi.se/rest-api/report/FOI-R--4651--SE

quote:
The S-400 anti-aircraft system is often said to have a 400-km range and be capable of intercepting a gamut of targets, from lumbering transport aircraft to agile fighter jets and cruise missiles, and even ballistic missiles. In fact, the missile with a purported 400-km range, the 40N6, is not yet operational and has been plagued by problems in development and testing. In its current configuration, the S-400 system should mainly be considered a threat to large high-value aircraft such as AWACS or transport aircraft at medium to high altitudes, out to a range of 200-250 km. In contrast, the effective range against agile fighter jets and cruise missiles operating at low altitudes can be as little 20- 35 km. Moreover, despite its sophistication, an S-400 battery is dependent on a single engagement radar and has a limited number of firing platforms. It is thus vulnerable both to munitions targeting its engagement radar and to saturation attacks. If and when the 40N6 missile goes online, its 400-km technical range cannot be effectively exploited against targets below approximately 3000 meters unless target data can be provided and updated during the missile’s flight by airborne or forward-deployed radars. Such a capability – often known as Cooperative Engagement – has only recently been successfully achieved by the U.S. Navy, and is a highly complex and demanding endeavour that Russia should not be expected to master within 10-15 years.
unquote.
According to this Swedish report S-400 system is not quite what the Russians say it is. The so called 400 km missile is not really fully operational.
The report really runs it down to ground. It is published on March 2019. So it is fairly new!
Against a plane like F16, it claims, the best it can achieve is 25-30km kill distance.
Quite long but worth a read.
I would like to hear the insider view of this system from our S-400 batallion guys.

The F-16 to survive to 25-30 km has done so much evasive maneuvering while closing the gap to the core of an S-400 battery that it will either be hit by an S-400 missile or crash because of empty fuel tanks.

Somewhat relevant to this:

 

[Yasar_TR]

The F-16 to survive to 25-30 km has done so much evasive maneuvering while closing the gap to the core of an S-400 battery that it will either be hit by an S-400 missile or crash because of empty fuel tanks.

Somewhat relevant to this:

If f16 was trying to evade an s400 lock, you are correct. But the article is, in my understanding, trying to point out that a stand alone s400 with a single radar and earth’s curvature playing its part can only be in a position to lock on an agile (terrain hugging/sea skimming) fighter within 20-35 km range. It is also saying that the Russians lack the high end web based warfare US can use and interconnect it’s radar net.

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1339170684354916353

Hisar-A+ has gone through its last acceptance test successfully.

 

[Agha Sher]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1339170684354916353

Hisar-A+ has gone through its last acceptance test successfully.

Isn't that a Hisar O truck?

 

[Khagan1923]

Isn't that a Hisar O truck?

No. Hisar-A(+) is both tracked and wheeled available.

 

[adenl]

At 0:35 and 0:44 you can see the 2nd fuel tank of the dual-pulse rocket engine kicking in during the terminal phase.