TR Air Defence Programs

[Agha Sher]

Is the range and max altitude of Hisar A+ known?

 

[Sinan]

At 0:35 and 0:44 you can see the 2nd stage of the dual-pulse rocket engine kicking in during the terminal phase.

To my eyes, it looks like they hit a flare release from a drone. Am i wrong ?

 

[guest12]

To my eyes, it looks like they hit a flare released from a drone. Am i wrong ?

Disagree as far as i see right before interception target drone's jet engine gone afterburner(is there a such a thing?).

 

[Agha Sher]

To my eyes, it looks like they hit a flare release from a drone. Am i wrong ?

Do you mean that the missile was fooled by a flare?

 

[AzeriTank]

Do you mean that the missile was fooled by a flare?

he means it shoot flare, not a mowing target

 

[Zafer]

Why should there be a flare if it is a test in a controlled environment?
Did they not want to shoot down the target drone itself?
Or perhaps they also tested how it behaves against multiple targets.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Is the range and max altitude of Hisar A+ known?

Russians tend to add to their missiles’ speed, range and altitude figures as they want to sell their missile systems. Thus they exaggerate a bit. They were giving 400km range for S400 even though the missile with that range was not even ready.
Turkish Army will never give you the exact figures. But a dual pulse rocket with the size of a Hisar-A + should be good enough for 20-25 km range 10k altitude. (Previously released figures of Hisar-O)
Hisar-O+ , hence should be 40+ km range and 15+ km altitude. It has to be better than the S125 of Ukraine - logically-.

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[Cabatli_TR]

Serial production !

Korkut
Sungur
Hisar-A+ IIR

Coming soon !

Hisar-O+: IIR and RF variants
Hisar-G/G+
G40
Siper
GUMS (HALR missile):

 

[Cabatli_TR]

When Turkish air defence missile and radar programs are completed, I think Turkey will have gained one of the most capable network centric and layered air defence concept of the World. The national SAM batteries that is consisted of multiple state of art radars, mixed (IIR and Rf) missiles in same launcher vehicles and hybrid seekers (Rf+IIR) at long range missiles will guarantee very high percentage kill ratio. This concept will provide a superior capability against advanced armies using electronic warfare sensors and tactics widely. Besides, The ranges between each layer of Turkish concept is shortened. This means that the enemy aircrafts will have to deal with multiple national missiles to penetrate Turkish air defence lines. The defence lines in terms of ranges can be summarzed as 4km-8km-20km-50km-~70km-120km-400km(S400)- (?) GUMS and in terms of altitudes 4km-6km-12km-20km-30km(S400)- 30-35km Siper- xxxkm (HALR) in altitude layers.

 

[Sinan]

Do you mean that the missile was fooled by a flare?

I don't think so. I'm just saying what i saw. It looks like a flare.

 

[Huelague]

Serial production !

Korkut
Sungur
Hisar-A+ IIR

Coming soon !

Hisar-O+: IIR and RF variants
Hisar-G/G+
G40
Siper
GUMS (HALR missile):

Bro, if Sungur is ready, why we havent seen MANPAD firing test?

 

[Sinan]

Disagree as far as i see right before interception target drone's jet engine gone afterburner(is there a such a thing?).

There is no afterburner...in target drones.

 

[Hexciter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1339170684354916353

Hisar-A+ has gone through its last acceptance test successfully.

It looks like that a test in which one target hit by two interceptors.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Bro, if Sungur is ready, why we havent seen MANPAD firing test?

 

[Khagan1923]

Serial production !

Korkut
Sungur
Hisar-A+ IIR

Coming soon !

Hisar-O+: IIR and RF variants
Hisar-G/G+
G40
Siper
GUMS (HALR missile):

HERİKKS-VI Umbrella:

Anti-Air Systems Land Forces:
Korkut: 4km
Sungur: 8km
Hisar-G/+: 10-20km(? if compared to NASAMS this is the most likely range we will see from it equipped with Block 1 Gökdogan BVRAAM Missiles)
Hisar-A+: 25km
Hisar-O+ IIR/RF: 35-50 km
Siper: 90km-120km

Anti-Air/Self-Protection Systems Naval Forces:
G40: 40km
Siper-N: 90-120km

Anti-Ballistic Missile System:
GUMS: 150km+ Range 100km+ Altitude


Personal Wish:

Mobile SHORAD System equipped with Korhan 35mm Turret and Sungur PorSAV System with ASEA Radar on 8x8 APC.

Rheinmetall example:

Same Turret on Boxer 8x8 for mobile troop protection.

 

[Turko]

HERİKKS-VI Umbrella:

Anti-Air Systems Land Forces:
Korkut: 4km
Sungur: 8km
Hisar-G/+: 10-20km(? if compared to NASAMS this is the most likely range we will see from it equipped with Block 1 Gökdogan BVRAAM Missiles)
Hisar-A+: 25km
Hisar-O+ IIR/RF: 35-50 km
Siper: 90km-120km

Anti-Air/Self-Protection Systems Naval Forces:
G40: 40km
Siper-N: 90-120km

Anti-Ballistic Missile System:
GUMS: 150km+ Range 100km+ Altitude


Personal Wish:

Mobile SHORAD System equipped with Korhan 35mm Turret and Sungur PorSAV System with ASEA Radar on 8x8 APC.

Rheinmetall example:

View attachment 8865

Same Turret on Boxer 8x8 for mobile troop protection.

View attachment 8867

Range of G40 which is equivalent of ESSM should be around 35-40km with 10-12 km altitude. There was ground launched ESSM prototype for Poland with same specifications. So we should expect G40+ have more range. I am looking forward to seeing G40.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

6 target engagement capability simultaneously

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1339516192445358082

 

[Yasar_TR]

Range of G40 which is equivalent of ESSM should be around 35-40km with 10-12 km altitude. There was ground launched ESSM prototype for Poland with same specifications. So we should expect G40+ have more range. I am looking forward to seeing G40.
View attachment 8868

I would also like to see ESSM Blk2 equivalent, G40 Blk2 from Roketsan as they are part of the consortium developing it.

 

[Reviewbrah]

HERİKKS-VI Umbrella:

Anti-Air Systems Land Forces:
Korkut: 4km
Sungur: 8km
Hisar-G/+: 10-20km(? if compared to NASAMS this is the most likely range we will see from it equipped with Block 1 Gökdogan BVRAAM Missiles)
Hisar-A+: 25km
Hisar-O+ IIR/RF: 35-50 km
Siper: 90km-120km

Anti-Air/Self-Protection Systems Naval Forces:
G40: 40km
Siper-N: 90-120km

Anti-Ballistic Missile System:
GUMS: 150km+ Range 100km+ Altitude


Personal Wish:

Mobile SHORAD System equipped with Korhan 35mm Turret and Sungur PorSAV System with ASEA Radar on 8x8 APC.

Rheinmetall example:

View attachment 8865

Same Turret on Boxer 8x8 for mobile troop protection.

View attachment 8867

View attachment 2517
2x-4x-8x Sungur (MANPADs) added to Korkut Radar/Targeting Vehicle

View attachment 2518
Korkut turret on a Otokar Arma 8x8 for mobile air defense

 

[Yasar_TR]

At 0:35 and 0:44 you can see the 2nd stage of the dual-pulse rocket engine kicking in during the terminal phase.

There is no second stage in these motors. Only one stage and one motor. It has, however 2 fuel tanks. It uses it’s first fuel tank to get close. Then it starts to lose speed. This is when it opens up second fuel tank and re-ignites. This is why you see a fireball. It reaches maximum speed. Catches target and destroys it.