TR Air Defence Programs

[I_Love_F16]

the naming scheme is so confusing that i'm entertaining the idea that it is made on purpose

Yeah but it could potentially confuse future buyers too.

 

[Sanchez]

Our most comprehensive look to "Steel Dome" yet, with few never announced systems littered in, from C4 Defence's latest cover. Note the fixed location ALP-600G radar and the Siper TEL vehicle.

C4 cover.

 

[Oublious]

Our most comprehensive look to "Steel Dome" yet, with few never announced systems littered in, from C4 Defence's latest cover. Note the fixed location ALP-600G radar and the Siper TEL vehicle.

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C4 cover.

that was a sharp detection like a radar...

lol

 

[Oublious]

ALP400G radar is a VHF radar?

 

[Ştutgart]

Roketsan levent close air defense system

 

[Chocopie]

Roketsan levent close air defense system

Live-fire shown of SeaRAM (with Phalanx sensor) and RAM launchers. Would love to see test firing vids of Levent from Turkish ships.

 

[Strong AI]

#AirDefense
ASELSAN GÖKSUR Air Defense Missile System will play a critical role in protecting naval platforms against advanced air threats.
#ASELSAN🤝🏻#TÜBİTAK

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843658281660600328

 

[Strong AI]

{#AirDefense}
GÖKDENİZ 100/35 defense system targets;
Anti-ship missiles,
Unmanned aerial vehicles,
Precision-guided munitions.
Capability of munitions selection based on the target type.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1843915277353840954

 

[Oublious]

what is wrong with the forum nobody have posted ...

 

[Quasar]

Hard to say from this low quality picture but still I think twin frontal fin sets (as seen below) should be visible or at least distinguishable but they are not... a design change in missile???

 

[Sanchez]

what is wrong with the forum nobody have posted ...

Lovely, but seems development is going slower than I expected. Radars and the EO both look to be mockups, so this was just a launch test for the missile.

 

[Quasar]

Lovely, but seems development is going slower than I expected. Radars and the EO both look to be mockups, so this was just a launch test for the missile.

even more interestingly there may be drastic structural changes on the missile itself I mean compared to missile mockups we have seen so far

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844429455097553352

 

[Sanchez]

even more interestingly there may be drastic structural changes on the missile itself I mean compared to missile mockups we have seen so far

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844429455097553352

We knew for some time that the missile would be different than Sungur, no? Levent is longer.

As Yıldırım points out, in a past mockup, they had shown two different missiles in a model, one of which Sungur. Looks like the idea of using Sungur as a substitute is now dead after Aselsan touted Gökdoğan directly for their own program.

 

[Quasar]

We knew for some time that the missile would be different than Sungur, no? Levent is longer.

As Yıldırım points out, in a past mockup, they had shown two different missiles in a model, one of which Sungur. Looks like the idea of using Sungur as a substitute is now dead after Aselsan touted Gökdoğan directly for their own program.

Off course Levent is longer and we have not seen Sungur in the mockups of the system for some time. in fact what ı am talking about is twin frontal fin sets we have seen on missile in mockups of LEVENT even in the most recent ones. However, the missile in the launch test doesnt seem to have them i.e the missile in the launch test does not have twin fin sets 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 frontal fins ... This looks like a new missile we have not seen before. Not the missile we have seen in recent posts and definitly not Sungur. As Yıldırım said ''Sungur da değil ''da'' is the key here Sungur da değil..... Yeni füze yapmışlar yine''.

 

[Anmdt]

even more interestingly there may be drastic structural changes on the missile itself I mean compared to missile mockups we have seen so far

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1844429455097553352

We knew for some time that the missile would be different than Sungur, no? Levent is longer.

As Yıldırım points out, in a past mockup, they had shown two different missiles in a model, one of which Sungur. Looks like the idea of using Sungur as a substitute is now dead after Aselsan touted Gökdoğan directly for their own program.

Back in days when Sungur-D was rumored, Navy had certain demands such as two way data link, range and so on. Logically it would yield a bigger missile than Sungur even for Levent Block-1.

Also i am not sure if Roketsan still goes with Block-1 and 2 missiles for Levent, or jumping straight to the Block-2.

 

[Oublious]

The frontside is dirty, looks like several launched before the officially realesed footage .

 

[Saithan]

is it me or are those missile around 122mm. ?

 

[Afif]

is it me or are those missile around 122mm. ?

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It is you.

 

[Saithan]

I just had to try search for it and I'm not that far off....

But those holes are quite large, is it because the missile fins are large enough for direction and correcting course etc. ? hence the two way link ?

And this may sounds stupid, but are there rills/rail inside the cannister/tube where the fins fit in and stabilizes the missile ?

It is quite heavy...

 

[Anmdt]

The frontside is dirty, looks like several launched before the officially realesed footage .

That rather looks like the first ballistic trial, and the missile looks so much like an artillery rocket than an air defence missile with the current form.
They might have secured the first firing trial with mock-up radar and EO, but there is a known fact, Bozdoğan is a working missile with a working seeker and controller etc. and likely has been fired from an USV in the past month but hasn't been released to public.

Also Meteksan's radar has two pieces (8 in total also referred to use MIMO) per spot on the land based system, but the one used on Levent has one piece (possible not MIMO), what is the difference among them, less range, less fidelity on Levent? More peak power on Levent and eliminating MIMO?