• Forum restore complete (see latest announcement thread)

TR Air Defence Programs

UkroTurk

Experienced member
Land Warfare Specialist
Professional
Messages
2,933
Reactions
60 5,249
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey

uçuyorum

Contributor
Messages
1,220
Reactions
15 1,983
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey

Yasar_TR

Experienced member
Staff member
Administrator
Messages
4,246
Reactions
256 22,167
Nation of residence
United Kingdom
Nation of origin
Turkey
Need a bigger pod for such a duty, aint gonna go far with 8 missiles in a high intensity area.
1787995706901.jpeg

These are 7 and 19 tube 70mm hydra rocket launcher pods US use on their aircrafts and Attack helicopters.
Roketsan has to find a way to increase the number of Cirit missiles the platforms carry.
1787996233543.jpeg

US helicopters can carry 76 of these 70mm Hydra rockets.

M261 (19 missile) and M260 (7 missile) pods are the US designation for them,
19 missule pod weighs 39.5kg.
Cirit weighs 15 kg.
fully loaded each pod should weigh 325kg.
4 of these pods with missiles makes 1300kg.
Even a Hurkus can manage this weight.
For land launching there should not be a problem.

EDIT
Yes, standard Hydra70mm are unguided cheap rockets. When made guided, they cost considerably more. So economically loading an expensive amount of munition on to a platform may prove to be uneconomical if they are easy to take out in a skirmish.
So that angle has to be given thought too.
 
Last edited:

Sanchez

Experienced member
Moderator
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
4,151
Reactions
121 18,889
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
View attachment 82712
These are 7 and 19 tube 70mm hydra rocket launcher pods US use on their aircrafts and Attack helicopters.
Roketsan has to find a way to increase the number of Cirit missiles the platforms carry.
View attachment 82713
US helicopters can carry 76 of these 70mm Hydra rockets.

M261 (19 missile) and M260 (7 missile) pods are the US designation for them,
19 missule pod weighs 39.5kg.
Cirit weighs 15 kg.
fully loaded each pod should weigh 325kg.
4 of these pods with missiles makes 1300kg.
Even a Hurkus can manage this weight.
For land launching there should not be a problem.
We have never even seen Cirit being launched from these standard Hydra pods since the system was unveiled 20 years ago. Always its own propriety pod in 2x or 4x. We really should. If American use laser guided APKWS IIs from these pods, Cirit should also be able to use them, it's not rocket science. Head seeker should be changed with fin based ones, or any other method.
 

Sanchez

Experienced member
Moderator
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
4,151
Reactions
121 18,889
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Especially when it comes to drones, where enemy fires high numbers of UAVs all at once in a saturation or swarm attack. .
Drones are very slow and Cirit lacks the range for bigger engagements. These are very short range, very mobile platforms. Can relocate 60km+ in an hour. Cirit Pusu C-UAV is a good platform for the role. In Ukraine, we never see more than 10 drones going over the same route at the same time.
 

Pokemonte13

Contributor
Messages
1,089
Reactions
11 1,997
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
Turkey
This can be used by other vehicles like 6x6 or 8x8 or any other larger vehicle. Yalman turret for instance could fire 8 missiles and a large vehicle could carry dozens of missiles internally.
 

Pokemonte13

Contributor
Messages
1,089
Reactions
11 1,997
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
Turkey
We have never even seen Cirit being launched from these standard Hydra pods since the system was unveiled 20 years ago. Always its own propriety pod in 2x or 4x. We really should. If American use laser guided APKWS IIs from these pods, Cirit should also be able to use them, it's not rocket science. Head seeker should be changed with fin based ones, or any other method.
The issue is that cirit has a capsule for what ever reason
 

Follow us on social media

Latest posts

Top Bottom