TR Air Defence Programs

[Cabatli_TR]

 

[Yasar_TR]

Sungur (8km)
Hisar-A+ (25km)
Hisar-O+ (45km)
Hisar-Rf (60km)
Hisar-U (100km)
Siper (150-200km)
UMYİ: (?)

Sungur is being upgraded too. So may be even longer range than 8km???

 

[Zafer]

Sungur (8km)
Hisar-A+ (25km)
Hisar-O+ (45km)
Hisar-Rf (60km)
Hisar-U (100km)
Siper (150-200km)
UMYİ: (?)

Hisar A+ and O+ numbers seem to be a little off.
"Onun üzerine Hisar O+’yı geliştirdik. Bunda da 10 kilometrenin üzerinde bir irtifa, 25 kilometre civarında bir menzile ulaşacağız." Said Mr İsmail Demir reportedly.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Hisar A+ and O+ numbers seem to be a little off.
"Onun üzerine Hisar O+’yı geliştirdik. Bunda da 10 kilometrenin üzerinde bir irtifa, 25 kilometre civarında bir menzile ulaşacağız." Said Mr İsmail Demir reportedly.

You know this subject was discussed before.

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

I think this infographic that we never take seriously is turning into reality.

The only difference is that it will probably only use RF. We will see IIR + RF in Siper.

 

[Siper>MMU]

İndigenous RAM ??

 

[Zafer]

You know this subject was discussed before.

İsmail Demir's statements seem pretty new, after the latest Hisar A+ tests.
I guess somebody should warn somebody to tell the truth. I am confused, not convinced.

 

[Zafer]

How is this inventory project of the forum coming along? We can't keep track of things anymore.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Hisar A+ and O+ numbers seem to be a little off.
"Onun üzerine Hisar O+’yı geliştirdik. Bunda da 10 kilometrenin üzerinde bir irtifa, 25 kilometre civarında bir menzile ulaşacağız." Said Mr İsmail Demir reportedly.

To be a stickler for exact numbers, you are correct.
But when you have a company like Roketsan and Aselsan who have been instrumental in the development of ESSM and ESSM-2 missiles; Isn’t it right to think and expect that they can build a missile with the size and appearance of an enlarged ESSM, that can go at least as far as an ESSM?

 

[Anmdt]

İndigenous RAM ??
View attachment 20393

Baykar being " creative", they shouldn't spend time with 3D of the parts they are not involving with,
They have also installed a huge illumination lamp (probably interpreting a laser gun) in place of fore stamp-stop RCWS.

 

[Zafer]

To be a stickler for exact numbers, you are correct.
But when you have a company like Roketsan and Aselsan who have been instrumental in the development of ESSM and ESSM-2 missiles; Isn’t it right to think and expect that they can build a missile with the size and appearance of an enlarged ESSM, that can go at least as far as an ESSM?

This makes Mr. Demir a big time liar, but anyways. Thinking that they are thinking in a range of ranges they shouldn't have left any unfilled range in the system which make people think that they have should have not left a gap there. I do thrust them that they will do a good job.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

İsmail Demir: A triple defense system on a land platform, one of which is a laser, is being developed to prevent UAV attacks .

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Hisar-A+ missile destroyed the target drone with hit to kill at an altutude above 10km in last autonomous vehicle firing trial.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1390672973477126146

 

[TheInsider]

Video from Yusuf Akbaba

> Yusuf Akbaba claims that Hisar O is planned to be delivered to the Army in 2021

> He claims that the Air Defence Network consists of Hisar A+, Hisar O+, Hisar RF, Hisar U, SIPER, S400

@TheInsider did you hear anything about Hisar O date and Hisar U ?

Hisar-O+ IIR version definitely will be available this year. Hisar-RF will probably slip to Q1 2022. Hisar-U is the 70-90km missile that was mentioned before. It seems like it is coming better than expected (estimated range in design phase vs tested range today). I expect Hisar-U to be available by the end of 2022 and probably by the end of 2023 Siper missile system will be available.

Hisar-A--->Hisar-A+ (same body with Hisar-A some changes to rocket engine and fuel composition)
Hisar-O--->Hisar-O+(same body with Hisar-O some changes to rocket engine and fuel composition)
Hisar-RF---> Similar body with Hisar-O some optimization work done on the body and inner components)
Hisar-U---> Hisar-RF with an enlarged completely new body estimated to have 70-90km range earlier now probably "+" improvements applied to it and it is coming better than expected.
Siper---->Earlier it is expected to be a 120km range missile with a dual seeker(RF+IIR) . Now I expect it to reach 150km.

BTW in Hisar-A+s latest test, the missile intercepted the target above 30k feet (~10km). So the range-altitude numbers i was told seem on spot.

 

[TheInsider]

Sungur (8km)
Hisar-A+ (25km)
Hisar-O+ (45km)
Hisar-Rf (60km)
Hisar-U (100km)
Siper (150-200km)
UMYİ: (?)

More like
Sungur(8km)
Sungur+(10km on the way)
Hisar-A+(25km)
Hisar-O+(40km)
Hisar-RF(50km)
Hisar-U(100km)
Siper(150km)
GUMS (??)

 

[akrepon]

More like
Sungur(8km)
Sungur+(10km on the way)
Hisar-A+(25km)
Hisar-O+(40km)
Hisar-RF(50km)
Hisar-U(100km)
Siper(150km)
GUMS (??)

Korkut at lowest? And possibly laser weapons for small sized uavs?

 

[TheInsider]

Korkut (4km)
Laser air defense system (0.5km and 3km development targets are to reach 5km and 10km in the future)

 

[akrepon]

Do you guys think we will have something similar to S400 in future?

 

[TheInsider]

No, we won't. We will have something similar to THAAD.