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Sungur (8km)
Hisar-A+ (25km)
Hisar-O+ (45km)
Hisar-Rf (60km)
Hisar-U (100km)
Siper (150-200km)
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Hisar A+ and O+ numbers seem to be a little off.
"Onun üzerine Hisar O+’yı geliştirdik. Bunda da 10 kilometrenin üzerinde bir irtifa, 25 kilometre civarında bir menzile ulaşacağız." Said Mr İsmail Demir reportedly.
 

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Hisar A+ and O+ numbers seem to be a little off.
"Onun üzerine Hisar O+’yı geliştirdik. Bunda da 10 kilometrenin üzerinde bir irtifa, 25 kilometre civarında bir menzile ulaşacağız." Said Mr İsmail Demir reportedly.

You know this subject was discussed before.
 

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You know this subject was discussed before.
İsmail Demir's statements seem pretty new, after the latest Hisar A+ tests.
I guess somebody should warn somebody to tell the truth. I am confused, not convinced.
 

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How is this inventory project of the forum coming along? We can't keep track of things anymore.
 

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Hisar A+ and O+ numbers seem to be a little off.
"Onun üzerine Hisar O+’yı geliştirdik. Bunda da 10 kilometrenin üzerinde bir irtifa, 25 kilometre civarında bir menzile ulaşacağız." Said Mr İsmail Demir reportedly.
To be a stickler for exact numbers, you are correct.
But when you have a company like Roketsan and Aselsan who have been instrumental in the development of ESSM and ESSM-2 missiles; Isn’t it right to think and expect that they can build a missile with the size and appearance of an enlarged ESSM, that can go at least as far as an ESSM?
 

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To be a stickler for exact numbers, you are correct.
But when you have a company like Roketsan and Aselsan who have been instrumental in the development of ESSM and ESSM-2 missiles; Isn’t it right to think and expect that they can build a missile with the size and appearance of an enlarged ESSM, that can go at least as far as an ESSM?
This makes Mr. Demir a big time liar, but anyways. Thinking that they are thinking in a range of ranges they shouldn't have left any unfilled range in the system which make people think that they have should have not left a gap there. I do thrust them that they will do a good job.
 
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İsmail Demir: A triple defense system on a land platform, one of which is a laser, is being developed to prevent UAV attacks .
 

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Video from Yusuf Akbaba


> Yusuf Akbaba claims that Hisar O is planned to be delivered to the Army in 2021

> He claims that the Air Defence Network consists of Hisar A+, Hisar O+, Hisar RF, Hisar U, SIPER, S400

@TheInsider did you hear anything about Hisar O date and Hisar U ?
Hisar-O+ IIR version definitely will be available this year. Hisar-RF will probably slip to Q1 2022. Hisar-U is the 70-90km missile that was mentioned before. It seems like it is coming better than expected (estimated range in design phase vs tested range today). I expect Hisar-U to be available by the end of 2022 and probably by the end of 2023 Siper missile system will be available.

Hisar-A--->Hisar-A+ (same body with Hisar-A some changes to rocket engine and fuel composition)
Hisar-O--->Hisar-O+(same body with Hisar-O some changes to rocket engine and fuel composition)
Hisar-RF---> Similar body with Hisar-O some optimization work done on the body and inner components)
Hisar-U---> Hisar-RF with an enlarged completely new body estimated to have 70-90km range earlier now probably "+" improvements applied to it and it is coming better than expected.
Siper---->Earlier it is expected to be a 120km range missile with a dual seeker(RF+IIR) . Now I expect it to reach 150km.

BTW in Hisar-A+s latest test, the missile intercepted the target above 30k feet (~10km). So the range-altitude numbers i was told seem on spot.
 

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Sungur (8km)
Hisar-A+ (25km)
Hisar-O+ (45km)
Hisar-Rf (60km)
Hisar-U (100km)
Siper (150-200km)
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Sungur(8km)
Sungur+(10km on the way)
Hisar-A+(25km)
Hisar-O+(40km)
Hisar-RF(50km)
Hisar-U(100km)
Siper(150km)
GUMS (??)
 

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Korkut (4km)
Laser air defense system (0.5km and 3km development targets are to reach 5km and 10km in the future)
 

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