TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

[begturan]

I wonder what would have happened if we hadn't rejected the KC-390 joint design and production offer years ago.

I think we have done enough co-production and sub-licensing, isn't it time to stand on our own two feet?

 

[Sanchez]

F-16 B50+ with SOM, nice catch.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912579040818459110

 

[Fuzuli NL]

F-16 B50+ with SOM, nice catch.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912579040818459110

It is indeed a Block 50 F-16C.

F-16 Aircraft Database - Airframe Details for F-16 #07-1009 - F-16.net

www.f-16.net

 

[Sanchez]

It is indeed a Block 50 F-16C.

F-16 Aircraft Database - Airframe Details for F-16 #07-1009 - F-16.net

www.f-16.net

Well yes, there are no other 2007 registry aircraft. 30(-1) Block 50+s with CFT and spines for Ds are all 2007-08. This small bird is among our most modern fighters.

If I remember right, this might be the first ever photo of SOM with 50+. Possible that UBAS has had a hand in this SOM equation, but I don’t see any changes to the launcher. Also see SDT’s ACMI pod on wing edge pylon. Which would probably mean that this is not test but training.

 

[begturan]

Well yes, there are no other 2007 registry aircraft. 30(-1) Block 50+s with CFT and spines for Ds are all 2007-08. This small bird is among our most modern fighters.

If I remember right, this might be the first ever photo of SOM with 50+. Possible that UBAS has had a hand in this SOM equation, but I don’t see any changes to the launcher. Also see SDT’s ACMI pod on wing edge pylon. Which would probably mean that this is not test but training.

I think we had some prerequisites before procuring fighter jets from America. Integration of domestic ammunition into current and future fighter jets may be one of these prerequisites. Recently, the use of domestic ammunition in our current fleets seems to have increased.

 

[Samba]

I think we had some prerequisites before procuring fighter jets from America. Integration of domestic ammunition into current and future fighter jets may be one of these prerequisites. Recently, the use of domestic ammunition in our current fleets seems to have increased.

And we have paid some. Maybe this was for the software!?

 

[Pokemonte13]

I doubt we got access to the mission computer otherwise we wouldn’t have bought so much ammunition for them(we can use our own guidance kit by making it think it’s American) so probably no som or cakir integration

 

[mTT]

"Federal government stops Eurofighter export to Turkey"

Handelsblatt

www.handelsblatt.com

@Fuzuli NL @Pokemonte13 @Strong AI What does this news talk about?

 

[Strong AI]

"Federal government stops Eurofighter export to Turkey"

Handelsblatt

www.handelsblatt.com

@Pokemonte13 @Strong AI What does this news talk about?

The governing red-green federal government is preventing the delivery of around three dozen Eurofighter combat jets to Turkey. This was learned by Handelsblatt from several sources familiar with the confidential internal government discussions on the matter.

That government will change in a few weeks, so we have to wait for the new one.

 

[Pokemonte13]

That government will change in a few weeks, so we have to wait for the new one.

Let’s see if that makes a difference as it didn’t made one in the past
(ich glaube merz wird nicht so praktisch sein wie wir hoffen)

 

[Pokemonte13]

Interesting was that the general inspector Carsten Breuer visited TUSAŞ and aselsan. Maybe the military wants deeper cooperation with us after Repkon.

 

[Strong AI]

Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler conducted an inspection at the Air and Missile Defense Simulator Center, which held an Opening Ceremony at the Air Technical Schools Command in İzmir. Accompanying Minister Yaşar Güler were Chief of the General Staff General Metin Gürak, Commander of the Land Forces General Selçuk Bayraktaroğlu, Commander of the Air Forces General Ziya Cemal Kadıoğlu, Commander of the Aegean Army General İrfan Özsert, Commander of the Combat Air Force General İsmail Güneykaya, and ASELSAN General Manager Ahmet Akyol.

Türk Hava Kuvvetleri on Instagram: "Millî Savunma Bakanı Yaşar Güler, İzmir’deki Hava Teknik Okullar Komutanlığında Açılış Töreni gerçekleştirilen Hava ve Füze Savunma Simülatör Merkezi’nde incelemelerde bulundu. Bakan Yaşar Güler’e; Genelkurmay Başk

1,042 likes, 2 comments - turkhavakkuvvetleri on April 17, 2025: "Millî Savunma Bakanı Yaşar Güler, İzmir’deki Hava Teknik Okullar Komutanlığında Açılış Töreni gerçekleştirilen Hava ve Füze Savunma Simülatör Merkezi’nde incelemelerde bulundu. Bakan Yaşar Güler’e; Genelkurmay Başkanı Orgeneral...

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[Tuvan]

Handelsblatt

www.handelsblatt.com

Alman hükümeti Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını veto etti – DW – 18.04.2025

Handelsblatt gazetesi, İmamoğlu'nun tutuklanması nedeniyle Alman hükümetinin Türkiye'ye Eurofighter tipi savaş uçaklarının satışını engellediğini yazdı.

www.dw.com

Alman basını: Hükûmet, İmamoğlu'nun tutuklanması gerekçesiyle Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını engelledi

Alman basını: Hükûmet, İmamoğlu'nun tutuklanması gerekçesiyle Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını engelledi

t24.com.tr

Germany vetoed Turkiye's Eurofighter acquisition amidst arrest of Ekrem Imamoglu

German government is changing in May 6 so they might change their policy again. I don't know

 

[Costin1984]

Handelsblatt

www.handelsblatt.com

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Alman basını: Hükûmet, İmamoğlu'nun tutuklanması gerekçesiyle Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını engelledi

Alman basını: Hükûmet, İmamoğlu'nun tutuklanması gerekçesiyle Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını engelledi

t24.com.tr

Germany vetoed Turkiye's Eurofighter acquisition amidst arrest of Ekrem Imamoglu

German government is changing in May 6 so they might change their policy again. I don't know

They still need the SDP and the Greens in the new ruling coalition.

 

[Pokemonte13]

They still need the SDP and the Greens in the new ruling coalition.

Actually just spd and cdu they needed the greens for a constitutional change (debt brake) not for government

 

[Spitfire9]

I wonder what would have happened if we hadn't rejected the KC-390 joint design and production offer years ago.

Looking at the rapid increase in C-390 customers recently, that looks like a big mistake.

Is Turkiye in the market to buy some soon? Embraer talks of a possible 3 more customers being lined up.

 

[Spitfire9]

They still need the SDP and the Greens in the new ruling coalition.

An anti-democrat leading a democracy arrests his political rival. A democratic country chooses to embargo arms to that country suppressing its own democracy. Until things change Turkish air force will get no Eurofighters.

UK needs an order for Eurofighter to keep its assembly plant alive. Not the case for Germany.

Back to ordering F-16 for Turkiye or is the goal of despotism in their country - shared by Trump and Erdogan - enough to unlock F-35?

 

[Strong AI]

An anti-democrat leading a democracy arrests his political rival. A democratic country chooses to embargo arms to that country suppressing its own democracy. Until things change Turkish air force will get no Eurofighters.

Did you tell that to KSA too?

 

[Sanchez]

Did you tell that to KSA too?

If we shoot 100 billion tomorrow to fund German businesses, have a nice working relationship with Israel and no issues with Greece on Greece's terms, I'm sure they will listen to us closely. We are not KSA. We can't afford to be KSA.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. This is insane.

 

[Strong AI]

If we shoot 100 billion tomorrow to fund German businesses, have a nice working relationship with Israel and no issues with Greece on Greece's terms, I'm sure they will listen to us closely. We are not KSA. We can't afford to be KSA.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. This is insane.

I just want to point out that their reason is not Ekrem, it is their excuse. Two different things. Of course the question is if it is smart to give them those excuses, like the S400 for example?