TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

[Sanchez]

Not necessarily foul play, but at the least, specifics are not yet decided upon. That means longer delivery schedule, which I think is our biggest problem right now.

As it was mentioned over the summer, current consensus seems to be lowered number of mod kits, likely to only cover 29 Block 50+s instead of 79.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1852468564160401760

 

[hugh]

There is, still, no contract for Hürjet's or KAAN's engines, right?

 

[Ripley]

As it was mentioned over the summer, current consensus seems to be lowered number of mod kits, likely to only cover 29 Block 50+s instead of 79.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1852468564160401760

Okeyyyy. So, are they decreasing number of mod kits to shorten the delivery time? Is that it?

 

[Sanchez]

Okeyyyy. So, are they decreasing number of mod kits to shorten the delivery time? Is that it?

Doubt it, that wouldn't have such an effect.

Might be down to other priorities, to cut costs down to spend it elsewhere, like Eurofighters and Özgür-2.

 

[Strong AI]

Viper is good but Typhoon is better and Özgür is around the corner. I hope TurAF will compensate less Vipers with more Typhoons.

 

[Fairon]

Cutting down the cost aside, Air Force may also want to increase the F-16 numbers that we can customise and use our weapons as well. (With including remaining Block 50+s to Özgür 2 program, if it is possible)

I wonder if 40 new Vipers are still on table? We may want to buy additional Eurofighters instead.

 

[somegoodusername]

Viper is good but Typhoon is better and Özgür is around the corner. I hope TurAF will compensate less Vipers with more Typhoons.

We need both Vipers and Typhoons. TurAF is underplaned currently.

 

[Sanchez]

40 Vipers and 40 EF2000s means 60 aircraft increase after F-4s are retired. That's nearly 25% increase in combat aircraft. Good enough for a stopgap.

 

[Strong AI]

We need both Vipers and Typhoons. TurAF is underplaned currently.

Thats why i wrote

I hope TurAF will compensate less Vipers with more Typhoons.

 

[somegoodusername]

Wasn't the change in the deal we get less upgrade kits, but buy still the same amount of neww F-16 Block 70's? Or did I get it wrong?

 

[Strong AI]

Wasn't the change in the deal we get less upgrade kits, but buy still the same amount of neww F-16 Block 70's? Or did I get it wrong?

AFAIK 79 kits and 40 new ones are the maximum numbers we can buy, the exact numbers are only speculation right now.

 

[boredaf]

Green light from Germany to Turkey for Eurofighter Typhoon!

Almanya'dan Türkiye'ye Eurofighter Typhoon için yeşil ışık | SavunmaSanayiST

Türkiye, Almanya’nın onayıyla 40 adet Eurofighter Typhoon savaş uçağı tedarikine bir adım daha yaklaştı. Türkiye’nin Typhoon tedarikindeki engeller kalktı.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Germany has given the green light for the sale of Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets to Turkey. Thus, there is no obstacle left for Turkey to procure Typhoons.

Turkey has been aiming to procure 40 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets for a long time within the scope of the needs of the Turkish Air Force. The sale, approved by Eurofighter Consortium members Italy, Spain and England, was stuck in Germany’s unilateral embargo. Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler announced that Germany has also approved the sale of Typhoons to Turkey.

In the statement made by Minister Güler on TV100, he said: “We will purchase 40 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets. Germany has been resisting for a long time not to give them, but finally, with the positive contributions of our NATO friends Italy, England and Spain, Germany has finally responded positively.”

According to the information received; Turkey has been in technical talks with the UK for some time regarding the procurement of Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets. The Turkish Air Force plans to procure 20+20 of the latest generation configuration Typhoon aircraft. Thus, it is aimed to add 1 fleet of Typhoon aircraft to the Turkish Air Force inventory in the first phase and 2 fleets in the final phase.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856444196804247641

 

[Fatman17]

192 Filo "Tiger (Kaplan)" (TuAF)

 

[Strong AI]

Green light from Germany to Turkey for Eurofighter Typhoon!

Almanya'dan Türkiye'ye Eurofighter Typhoon için yeşil ışık | SavunmaSanayiST

Türkiye, Almanya’nın onayıyla 40 adet Eurofighter Typhoon savaş uçağı tedarikine bir adım daha yaklaştı. Türkiye’nin Typhoon tedarikindeki engeller kalktı.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Germany has given the green light for the sale of Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets to Turkey. Thus, there is no obstacle left for Turkey to procure Typhoons.

Turkey has been aiming to procure 40 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets for a long time within the scope of the needs of the Turkish Air Force. The sale, approved by Eurofighter Consortium members Italy, Spain and England, was stuck in Germany’s unilateral embargo. Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler announced that Germany has also approved the sale of Typhoons to Turkey.

In the statement made by Minister Güler on TV100, he said: “We will purchase 40 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets. Germany has been resisting for a long time not to give them, but finally, with the positive contributions of our NATO friends Italy, England and Spain, Germany has finally responded positively.”

According to the information received; Turkey has been in technical talks with the UK for some time regarding the procurement of Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets. The Turkish Air Force plans to procure 20+20 of the latest generation configuration Typhoon aircraft. Thus, it is aimed to add 1 fleet of Typhoon aircraft to the Turkish Air Force inventory in the first phase and 2 fleets in the final phase.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856444196804247641

If they allow integration of indigenous weapons and EW pods, IMHO this is a very good purchase.

 

[Sanchez]

Green light from Germany to Turkey for Eurofighter Typhoon!

Almanya'dan Türkiye'ye Eurofighter Typhoon için yeşil ışık | SavunmaSanayiST

Türkiye, Almanya’nın onayıyla 40 adet Eurofighter Typhoon savaş uçağı tedarikine bir adım daha yaklaştı. Türkiye’nin Typhoon tedarikindeki engeller kalktı.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Germany has given the green light for the sale of Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets to Turkey. Thus, there is no obstacle left for Turkey to procure Typhoons.

Turkey has been aiming to procure 40 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets for a long time within the scope of the needs of the Turkish Air Force. The sale, approved by Eurofighter Consortium members Italy, Spain and England, was stuck in Germany’s unilateral embargo. Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler announced that Germany has also approved the sale of Typhoons to Turkey.

In the statement made by Minister Güler on TV100, he said: “We will purchase 40 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets. Germany has been resisting for a long time not to give them, but finally, with the positive contributions of our NATO friends Italy, England and Spain, Germany has finally responded positively.”

According to the information received; Turkey has been in technical talks with the UK for some time regarding the procurement of Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets. The Turkish Air Force plans to procure 20+20 of the latest generation configuration Typhoon aircraft. Thus, it is aimed to add 1 fleet of Typhoon aircraft to the Turkish Air Force inventory in the first phase and 2 fleets in the final phase.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1856444196804247641

I think this is a mistranslation and misinterpretation of his words and we are not any closer to the EF-2000 sale than we were a month ago with the start of preliminary technical talks. Let's wait a bit for some updates from outside. There still needs to be political approval from German government for the sale.

 

[Shtr]

I think that Minister can not talk without a full approval.

 

[Gaucho]

 

[Nutuk]

Hopefully, this will not turn into another Altay tank issue, although if we still trust Germany and make such purchases after everything that has happened, we deserve it.

 

[BordoEnes]

Hopefully, this will not turn into another Altay tank issue, although if we still trust Germany and make such purchases after everything that has happened, we deserve it.

It probably will, but then again regardless of which fighter jet we purchased we would have run into political sabotage and delaying so might as well get one of the best fighter jet there is. At this point there is urgency, and we can't be picky. Hopefully that will not be the case in the next decade.

 

[what]

I think with the upcoming government change in Germany, and with most likely the CDU running the show, they will be lifting most if not all restrictions on weapons exports.