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As we do with Azeri planes?
Su-25 is somewhere between outdated to obsolete. Merhale-1 mod only added UBAS. Merhale-2 mod will include avionics upgrades which is still some years away and Su-25 is an aircraft TAI, Aselsan and Roketsan knows pretty intimately.

Eurofighter is not outdated, in fact it's more modern that anything we have right now. Why pay billions for things to just replace them. We'd be more than happy with some mission computer access and weapons integration if it came to it. Noone will sell us "hulls" to put our own stuff in. And our companies have no idea about the aircraft's inner workings.
 

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"With the initial payment made for the supply of F-16 Block 70, the contracts have come into effect. Technical discussions continue with U.S. government officials and representatives of the manufacturing company regarding the procurement of the F-16 Block 70 aircraft."

is it normal to make a "downpayment" before technical discussions ? I thought all that was sorted out before you make a downpayment.
 

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And thats why i assume
I simply don't believe that newspiece. LM didn't announce it for the stock exchange, neither did the US media. I think it's a mistranslation and this is not a done deal yet. Let's see.
 

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I was thinking the same, but if companies usually announce these things, then I'd very much like to know why they haven't... I do expect foul play.
 

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How about this one?

That is better 🤪
I was thinking the same, but if companies usually announce these things, then I'd very much like to know why they haven't... I do expect foul play.
Not necessarily foul play, but at the least, specifics are not yet decided upon. That means longer delivery schedule, which I think is our biggest problem right now.
 

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Okeyyyy. So, are they decreasing number of mod kits to shorten the delivery time? Is that it?
Doubt it, that wouldn't have such an effect.

Might be down to other priorities, to cut costs down to spend it elsewhere, like Eurofighters and Özgür-2.
 

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Cutting down the cost aside, Air Force may also want to increase the F-16 numbers that we can customise and use our weapons as well. (With including remaining Block 50+s to Özgür 2 program, if it is possible)

I wonder if 40 new Vipers are still on table? We may want to buy additional Eurofighters instead.
 

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40 Vipers and 40 EF2000s means 60 aircraft increase after F-4s are retired. That's nearly 25% increase in combat aircraft. Good enough for a stopgap.
 

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Wasn't the change in the deal we get less upgrade kits, but buy still the same amount of neww F-16 Block 70's? Or did I get it wrong?
 

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Green light from Germany to Turkey for Eurofighter Typhoon!


Germany has given the green light for the sale of Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets to Turkey. Thus, there is no obstacle left for Turkey to procure Typhoons.

Turkey has been aiming to procure 40 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets for a long time within the scope of the needs of the Turkish Air Force. The sale, approved by Eurofighter Consortium members Italy, Spain and England, was stuck in Germany’s unilateral embargo. Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler announced that Germany has also approved the sale of Typhoons to Turkey.

In the statement made by Minister Güler on TV100, he said: “We will purchase 40 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets. Germany has been resisting for a long time not to give them, but finally, with the positive contributions of our NATO friends Italy, England and Spain, Germany has finally responded positively.”

According to the information received; Turkey has been in technical talks with the UK for some time regarding the procurement of Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets. The Turkish Air Force plans to procure 20+20 of the latest generation configuration Typhoon aircraft. Thus, it is aimed to add 1 fleet of Typhoon aircraft to the Turkish Air Force inventory in the first phase and 2 fleets in the final phase.

 

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Green light from Germany to Turkey for Eurofighter Typhoon!


Germany has given the green light for the sale of Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets to Turkey. Thus, there is no obstacle left for Turkey to procure Typhoons.

Turkey has been aiming to procure 40 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets for a long time within the scope of the needs of the Turkish Air Force. The sale, approved by Eurofighter Consortium members Italy, Spain and England, was stuck in Germany’s unilateral embargo. Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler announced that Germany has also approved the sale of Typhoons to Turkey.

In the statement made by Minister Güler on TV100, he said: “We will purchase 40 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets. Germany has been resisting for a long time not to give them, but finally, with the positive contributions of our NATO friends Italy, England and Spain, Germany has finally responded positively.”

According to the information received; Turkey has been in technical talks with the UK for some time regarding the procurement of Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets. The Turkish Air Force plans to procure 20+20 of the latest generation configuration Typhoon aircraft. Thus, it is aimed to add 1 fleet of Typhoon aircraft to the Turkish Air Force inventory in the first phase and 2 fleets in the final phase.

I think this is a mistranslation and misinterpretation of his words and we are not any closer to the EF-2000 sale than we were a month ago with the start of preliminary technical talks. Let's wait a bit for some updates from outside. There still needs to be political approval from German government for the sale.
 
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