TR Aircraft Carrier & Amphibious Ship Programs

[BalkanTurk90]

We should cancel Mugem since we dont habe 5gen manned fighter for it and concentrete all power om frigates , destroyers and submarines . All world is buiding army like no tomorrow , Japan buiding 23 New FFP Frigates 142 meter . We shpuld aslo bulid more . Another 8 bigger istanbul class and 12 Tf2000 destroyers is a must to protect Blue homeland amd not spent money on AC with drones

 

[Pokemonte13]

We should cancel Mugem since we dont habe 5gen manned fighter for it and concentrete all power om frigates , destroyers and submarines . All world is buiding army like no tomorrow , Japan buiding 23 New FFP Frigates 142 meter . We shpuld aslo bulid more . Another 8 bigger istanbul class and 12 Tf2000 destroyers is a must to protect Blue homeland amd not spent money on AC with drones

We don’t know how many ships navy wants or if it will start a new program. Mugem is not for the Defense of the Blue homeland but for force projection

 

[BalkanTurk90]

We don’t know how many ships navy wants or if it will start a new program. Mugem is not for the Defense of the Blue homeland but for force projection

A navy commander if i remember correctly or even Erdogan told that we will double the Navy .
And just 8 İstanbul and 8 Tf 2000 are not enough while we need to retire rusty 4 yavuz and 8 Perry class . thats 16 new , - 12 . Just 4 added Not double so thats why i said Cancel useless MUGEM and 8 useles Hisar and in their place buld more frigates & Destroyers .
İn modern warfare a enemy in one way or anothet will find a way and will attack your AC , putting thousends of sailors at rist & billions $ .
U aslo can Force projection with 12-16 TF 2000 . U can park 5 of them at enemy coast and bomb enemy all day & Night

 

[uçuyorum]

Mugem is not a priority but there is no reason to cancel it either. With çafrad, vls and KE / ANKA 3 it's a different capability. Do not think of it as equal of US /UK / FR / China carriers, it's its own thing

 

[AlperTunga]

We should cancel Mugem since we dont habe 5gen manned fighter for it and concentrete all power om frigates , destroyers and submarines . All world is buiding army like no tomorrow , Japan buiding 23 New FFP Frigates 142 meter . We shpuld aslo bulid more . Another 8 bigger istanbul class and 12 Tf2000 destroyers is a must to protect Blue homeland amd not spent money on AC with drones

I agree with you, we need more Istif frigates and TF2000 destroyers. But they won't cancel it, as it is sort of a prestige project. It may still be useful for places like Libya, Somalia etc. It is quite big for a drone carrier and has enough place, so instead of 32VLS they should consider 64 or even 96 such that it can better protect itself. The reason is we won't have sufficient number of war ships to protect it, so it should be largely self-sufficient.

 

[uçuyorum]

I agree with you, we need more Istif frigates and TF2000 destroyers. But they won't cancel it, as it is sort of a prestige project. It may still be useful for places like Libya, Somalia etc. It is quite big for a drone carrier and has enough place, so instead of 32VLS they should consider 64 or even 96 such that it can better protect itself. The reason is we won't have sufficient number of war ships to protect it, so it should be largely self-sufficient.

Well 32 VLS + 2-3 ciws should be enough for self protection. TF2000 needs that many VLS because that is its main armament. MUGEM's main armament is jet drones. You won't launch gezgin from it unlike destroyers. And it will likely stay farther away from threats.

 

[Sanchez]

And just 8 İstanbul and 8 Tf 2000 are not enough while we need to retire rusty 4 yavuz and 8 Perry class . thats 16 new , - 12 . Just 4 added Not double so thats why i said Cancel useless MUGEM and 8 useles Hisar and in their place buld more frigates & Destroyers .

If you look at it from VLS count, it's basically a 5x increase.

Navy currently have 96 VLS cells, it will have 560 once 8 Istifs and 4 TF2000s are delivered, and 944 if 4 more TF-2000s are delivered, 10x increase.

Add the 10 Hisars, and we will have enough ships to cover everywhere we need to be.