TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

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Temel Kotil is a well respected engineer 😉
Doubt he's the lead engineer of the 10ton heli program and is well versed in rotorcraft production. You can see that what's I meant. His job is not to be an engineer but an administrator.
 

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Kotil is not what to TAI what Selçuk is to Baykar. He's not an engineer, he's a director, an organizer if you will.
As we do not yet have a full size mockup, everything about T925 is subject to change. That will be the same even after the mockup as we've seen with MMU.
Temel Kotil is an aerospace engineering graduate. Is he not engineer enough for you.
 

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Doubt he's the lead engineer of the 10ton heli program and is well versed in rotorcraft production. You can see that what's I meant. His job is not to be an engineer but an administrator.
He is on top of his game, stop trying to discredit the top guy of our aerospace industry.
 

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Doubt he's the lead engineer of the 10ton heli program and is well versed in rotorcraft production. You can see that what's I meant. His job is not to be an engineer but an administrator.
I know that's what you meant. However there are people out there who don't know Temel Kotil has a serious engineering background. I urge you to be more specific next time.
 

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Naval version wouldn't come before the main version, as the latter requires some design changes which certainly would be applied after the mainstream platform is proven but like I said, it ain't gonna take a long time as it is an urgent need and won't be as painful as making a naval Hürjet.
 

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Naval version wouldn't come before the main version, as the latter requires some design changes which certainly would be applied after the mainstream platform is proven but like I said, it ain't gonna take a long time as it is an urgent need and won't be as painful as making a naval Hürjet.
The mock up shown is of Naval variant.
 

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T-925 also might use TV3-117 engine. With two of those engine, its MTOW probably will be between 10 and 11 tonnes. However, if they planning to using three engine, it can closes to the specifications of AW-101. Because AW-101 also uses three similar powered engine(Rolls-Royce Turbomeca RTM322). In my opinion, TUSAS should make T-925 with double engine. After TEI made new 3000 HP engine(TEI TS3000), they should change old Russian engine with indigineous one. And they also should give start to new heavy class helicopter which using three of this indigenous produced engine.
 

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Sometimes we overlook it, but TAI has global ambitions in helicopter manufacturing, and they are working to become one of the world's top 3-5 helicopter suppliers. The EASA certification of Gökbey is one of the clearest indicators of this. Probably all utulity helicopters to be produced in the future will also go through this process, in the initial development phase or later stage. Looking at the long term, we see that TAI aims to create a wide range of products in the field of rotary wings.

The T-625 6-ton helicopter will be followed by the T-925 battlefield utility helicopter in the 10-12 ton class, suitable for CSAR and naval operations. In addition to the navalized variant, this helicopter will probably modernize the fleets of Mi-17 and Cougar helicopters in the inventories. So there is a very serious orderbook potential in military terms. Following this phase, there are plans for a lighter variant of the T-625, a training and Light Utility helicopter in the 3-3,5 ton class. This helicopter can probably be prepared in a very short time after the T-625. Also, there will probably be armed and navalized versions of the T-625. In Temel Kotil's statements, we constantly see the emphasis on this, and it is obvious that there is a desire for this. After this stage, my personal guess is that a triple engine heavy lift helicopter project with a maximum take-off weight of around 15-16 tons will be launched in the 2027-2030 date range, i.e. after the light utility, medium twin engine and heavy twin engine helicopters emerge, if the military market is prioritized. If the civilian market is prioritized, a super-medium twin engine helicopter could also be produced.

All in all, within 10 years, with a product range of 6-8 main platforms and many sub-variants, including utulity multi-purpose helicopters in at least 4 classes (3/4 tons, 6 tons, and 11 tons are certain) and tandem cockpit attack helicopters in at least 2 classes (ATAK-I and ATAK-II): TAI will be one of the 4-5 most important helicopter production center in the world together with Bell-Sikorsky-Boeing, Airbus, JSC Russian Helicopters (Kamov+Mil). In this sense, it may be possible to consider the separate corporatization and public offering of TAI's helicopter division. If all this expansion proceeds as planned, TAI - Helicopters alone could become a company with nearly 10,000 direct jobs and an annual turnover in the billions of dollars.
 
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T625 would have its own market, which is very competitive, but a paragraph also needs to be opened for T925's civilian use as well and not just in Turkey. Heavy twin engine helicopters than can carry 20 is a not so small market, especially in offshore rigs, air ambulances, civilian SAR teams. Unlike the light twin engine market though, there are less competitors. Plenty of companies with fleets of up to 20-30 birds exists. Most of these operate S-92s but an important number of them use Cougars and Pumas. Those are nearing 30 and in the next decade they will need to be replaced.
 

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