TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

[Nilgiri]

Well I believe the utility helicopter is shown on purpose to prove that we're doing it. And that we have an alternative engine for Atak and such.

I just want to know Hürkus is not a new project and it's flying already. Would it matter if we revealed that we have domestic engine and several Hürkus flying with it (if we pretend they were flying). ?

Given what has been established with the TS-1400....and the videos (of tests, interviews etc) and so on that are freely available.....a turboprop matured variant would not shock/matter to outside observers....as TS-1400 is really set into motion already and it is readily expected natural progression (lets call it TP-1400 as placeholder) from it.

 

[Nutuk]

Does anyone know how many T-129 helicopters the Turkish armed forces have procured?

In the begin the ATAK tender was 59 + 41 ATAK (T_129) helicopters, later 9 helicopters were added as "erken duhul", fast delivery need.


Until today 68 T_129 have been delivered to the armed forces, ATAK II helicopter is in development.

How many more ATAK (T_129) helicopters are yet to be delivered? I lost count, help please.

 

[Cenkcnk]

And I wonder how many light attack helis do we need? We had a few cobras and now dozens of Ataks. And also heavy attack helis will come. At the end how many attack helis are we going to have?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Does anyone know how many T-129 helicopters the Turkish armed forces have procured?

In the begin the ATAK tender was 59 + 41 ATAK (T_129) helicopters, later 9 helicopters were added as "erken duhul", fast delivery need.


Until today 68 T_129 have been delivered to the armed forces, ATAK II helicopter is in development.

How many more ATAK (T_129) helicopters are yet to be delivered? I lost count, help please.

In an interview Mr Kotil said there will be 83 altogether. (Not counting the option quantities)

 

[Khagan1923]

Does anyone know how many T-129 helicopters the Turkish armed forces have procured?

In the begin the ATAK tender was 59 + 41 ATAK (T_129) helicopters, later 9 helicopters were added as "erken duhul", fast delivery need.


Until today 68 T_129 have been delivered to the armed forces, ATAK II helicopter is in development.

How many more ATAK (T_129) helicopters are yet to be delivered? I lost count, help please.

I think nobody really knows.

Jandarma and Police putting in orders have muddied everything up.

I think the line will stay open until ATAK II is ready for production and then they will switch the production line over to produce ATAK II. Unless we somehow win major tenders for the T-129 which would be a reason to establish a separate line for ATAK II and T-129.


So if it stays open another two years(2022-2023) and TAI can deliver 11-13 T-129 in a year we would see another 22-26 T-129 enter the inventory, mainly that of the Land Forces.

Let's also no forget that all T-129 will be upgraded to Faz-II and then to Faz-III.

68+~22=~90 T-129.

If all the options are ordered we might see over a 100 T-129 in the inventory.

There is also the Phillippine order which they are supposed to double in the near future. Which would keep the line open up to 2024 or 2025 maybe.

 

[Yasar_TR]

According to Tusas site:
ATAK Programı kapsamında, Türk Kara Kuvvetleri’ne 59’u kesin 32’si opsiyonel toplam 91 adet, İçişleri Bakanlığı’na 24’ü kesin 3’ü opsiyonel toplam 27 adet, Pakistan Kara Kuvvetleri’ne 30 adet, Filipinler Hava Kuvvetleri’ne 6 adet T129 ATAK Helikopteri teslim edilecektir.
59 units confirmed orders. 32 on option ; for Land Forces = 91 total
24 units confirmed and 3 on option ; for Internal Affairs (Gendarmerie)
30 units for Pakistan
6 Units for Philippines.

 

[TheInsider]

I heard that land forces won't order optional T-129s. Land forces will order T-929 instead. Navy will also order T-929. The current requirement for T-929 stays around 50 units. All T-129s of the land forces will be upgraded to phase II and a new phase III configuration(new SWIR+MWIR FLIR, SEDA acoustic fire location finder, enhanced network capability and enhanced UAV integration and integration of new weapons like Kuzgun, Sungur etc.) is in development for further upgrades.

 

[Yasar_TR]

I heard that land forces won't order optional T-129s. Land forces will order T-929 instead. Navy will also order T-929. The current requirement for T-929 stays around 50 units. All T-129s of the land forces will be upgraded to phase II and a new phase III configuration(new SWIR+MWIR FLIR, SEDA acoustic fire location finder, enhanced network capability and enhanced UAV integration and integration of new weapons like Kuzgun, Sungur etc.) is in development for further upgrades.

This is in line with Tusas's eagerness to produce a working T-929 as soon as possible!

 

[NitricAcid]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1478688889950937088

 

[manifesto]

When phase 3 come, other t 129's will modernise to phase 3 or they will wait MLU?

 

[TheInsider]

Lol the US is hilarious. Now China will supply Pakistan Z-10ME rather than Türkiye supplying T-129. This will bring China and Pakistan even closer. This benefits no one. It doesn't benefit Türkiye as we lost order. It doesn't benefit the US as China gets the order and this will bring Pakistan and China even closer. I believe this also doesn't benefit India as Pakistan goes deeper and deeper under Chinese influence.

 

[Agha Sher]

2x T-129 will be delivered to PAF tomorrow!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1479119798063669261

 

[Combat-Master]

T-625 for Jandarma

 

[Combat-Master]

Latest T-929 scaled model

 

[TheInsider]

4 hardpoints. This is interesting I thought there will be 6. 3 on each wing.

 

[Fighter_35]

4 hardpoints. This is interesting I thought there will be 6. 3 on each wing.

The third one will be edge of wings as per shared 3d video with air to air missile load.

 

[Anmdt]

Latest T-929 scaled model
View attachment 38129

There is DIRCM but no MILDAR. Wasn't T-929 supposed to get MILDAR?
Also the gun supposed to be a higher caliber? Could this be some sort of older configuration for T-929?

 

[Siper>MMU]

T-625 for Jandarma
View attachment 38128

This one is for HvKK

 

[Zafer]

Probably they will fit both 20mm and 30mm cannons for variety.
I can not see the starboard side wing which may be different from what we think.

 

[kenny]

The T925 Utility Helicopter will fly in 2024, which means that maybe we will see the first prototypes at the end of 2022, like 2023. T-925 is a project that I am as curious and eagerly awaiting as MMU.