TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

[Cabatli_TR]

@Boz, Can you paint those unassembled parts in the same color with rest of the fuselage? Let our members see final appearance of P0.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652005080181223425

Another video of the first flight

Whats ballistic protection of this helicopter? can survive 12.7 mm if it shoot around engine and cockpit ?
Aslo what do u think about ukrainian engunes , are any good?

 

[Zafer]

Ağır Sınıf Taarruz Helikopterimiz ATAK-2 ilk kez havalandı

Cumhurbaşkanlığı Savunma Sanayii Başkanı İsmail Demir, yerli ve milli imkanlarla geliştirilen ağır sınıf taarruz helikopteri ATAK-2'nin ilk kez

video.haber7.com

Atak-2 makes first flight like its nothing.

 

[Merzifonlu]

Congratulations TAI. If the FLIR is attached to the nose cone like on the T129, the 30mm gun will have no problem in terms of functionality. The T929 looks ugly as the engine bay hasn't been dressed yet. Finish the decoration part, even if she's not a beauty queen, she looks charismatic on screen like Jean Paul Belmondo, don't worry too much.

 

[TR_123456]

Congratulations TAI. If the FLIR is attached to the nose cone like on the T129, the 30mm gun will have no problem in terms of functionality. The T929 looks ugly as the engine bay hasn't been dressed yet. Finish the decoration part, even if she's not a beauty queen, she looks charismatic on screen like Jean Paul Belmondo, don't worry too much.

How many of the forum members would know Jean Paul Belmondo you think?

 

[Merzifonlu]

How many of the forum members would know Jean Paul Belmondo you think?

I am a old man. (49 actually)

 

[Aloster]

Whats ballistic protection of this helicopter? can survive 12.7 mm if it shoot around engine and cockpit ?
Aslo what do u think about ukrainian engunes , are any good?

They are not bad engines. U have to compare them with west ones not only weight power ratio , fuel consumption and Mtff ( mean time to first failure) also u have to include acc to price , operating and producing strategy, work at failure time, work at bad conditions. I m sure that u see a balance between west ones and Soviet ones. If not exist , half of the world not use them. Of course now west ones goes up but still we can use Ukraine ones untill we can produce national ones.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Whats ballistic protection of this helicopter? can survive 12.7 mm if it shoot around engine and cockpit ?

It is stated in the specifications of the helicopter that the pilot cabin and most of the cockpit is protected against 12.7mm rounds.
This was a disturbing deficiency of the Atak-129 and had to be addressed. Another important point is the inclusion of a milimetric radar. Meteksan had made the Mildar, which is a very potent piece of equipment. But it could not be incorporated in to Atak-129. Hopefully it will have it’s place in this bird.

ATAK-2 Ağır Sınıf Taarruz Helikopteri ilk uçuşunu yaptı

ATAK-2 Projesi kapsamında geliştirilen T929 Ağır Sınıf Taarruz Helikopteri, bugün ilk uçuşunu başarıyla gerçekleştirdi. ATAK-2, 1.5 ton mühimmat taşıyacak.

www.savunmasanayist.com

 

[Combat-Master]

Whats ballistic protection of this helicopter? can survive 12.7 mm if it shoot around engine and cockpit ?
Aslo what do u think about ukrainian engunes , are any good?

Hopefully it's 20mm in critical areas like all the other heavy attack helicopters

 

[Radonsider]

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When flir came to nose upside, it is okay

 

[Radonsider]

Not real btw

 

[Ripley]

There was this *contributor at trmilitary forum who suggested that this was “a good test bed”, not Atak 2 itself.

Well, looking at this bare-bone “aircraft” stripped of fuselage parts and lack of many components, I’m beginning to believe that is the case.

*EDIT: I would gladly share his name but I’m afraid can’t find his post at the related thread.

 

[MADDOG]

There was this *contributor at trmilitary forum who suggested that this was “a good test bed”, not Atak 2 itself.

Well, looking at this bare-bone “aircraft” stripped of fuselage parts and lack of many components, I’m beginning to believe that is the case.

*EDIT: I would gladly share his name but I’m afraid can’t find his post at the related thread.

You can't trace this to the lack of components (I'm guessing you're referring to her exposed innards). TAI strips off their rotorcraft platforms pre-flight and during the maiden flight the heli might seem incomplete but in reality that isn't the case. We can all agree that this is a pretty early prototype but the reasoning as to why this is the case is different.

 

[Era_shield]

There was this *contributor at trmilitary forum who suggested that this was “a good test bed”, not Atak 2 itself.

Well, looking at this bare-bone “aircraft” stripped of fuselage parts and lack of many components, I’m beginning to believe that is the case.

*EDIT: I would gladly share his name but I’m afraid can’t find his post at the related thread.

That person doesn't understand what the term "test bed" means. A test bed is a device or system whose function is to test an installed or connected component which is being developed. When the whole system is what's being developed and tested, that's called a "prototype". What is seen in these pictures is a prototype, and it's normal for these to be tested without outer panels installed, as seen in photos posted earlier in this thread of a different chopper in a similar state.

 

[Agha Sher]

That person doesn't understand what the term "test bed" means. A test bed is a device or system whose function is to test an installed or connected component which is being developed. When the whole system is what's being developed and tested, that's called a "prototype". What is seen in these pictures is a prototype, and it's normal for these to be tested without outer panels installed, as seen in photos posted earlier in this thread of a different chopper in a similar state.

could the gun have been further forward on this early prototype to help with balance and weight distribution? The prototype is obviously missing systems that would add weight to the front of the aircraft in later prototypes.

 

[Era_shield]

could the gun have been further forward on this early prototype to help with balance and weight distribution? The prototype is obviously missing systems that would add weight to the front of the aircraft in later prototypes.

That's very possible. Either way, I'm 99% sure the front section will look different in the production version.

 

[Ripley]

That person doesn't understand what the term "test bed" means. A test bed is a device or system whose function is to test an installed or connected component which is being developed. When the whole system is what's being developed and tested, that's called a "prototype". What is seen in these pictures is a prototype, and it's normal for these to be tested without outer panels installed, as seen in photos posted earlier in this thread of a different chopper in a similar state.

I doubt whether he missed the meaning there.
He simply tried to refer the status ”as is”. He didn’t say it was a testbed iirc. In fact, that’s why I quoted it as “a good test bed” as it is currently, not “the test bed” and as a prototype it’s lacking many components obviously and even maybe systems.
We saw a helicopter lifting successfully and I simply wonder whether any systems and components are working in unison as a “prototype” as you put it.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not insinuating a conspiracy or insulting Atak2 project.
I’m just suggesting that it looks more like a “testbed” rather than a “prototype” in its current condition.

 

[MADDOG]

ATAK-2

via @gooksel

 

[Sanchez]

Size difference with the T129 is something for sure.

That person doesn't understand what the term "test bed" means. A test bed is a device or system whose function is to test an installed or connected component which is being developed. When the whole system is what's being developed and tested, that's called a "prototype". What is seen in these pictures is a prototype, and it's normal for these to be tested without outer panels installed, as seen in photos posted earlier in this thread of a different chopper in a similar state.

It could be a test bed/prototype to see if the engine set up works. We'll see.

 

[Strong AI]

ATAK-2 EXPERIMENTAL starts growing on me.

Between, could ATAK-2 perform SEAD with ammunition like KEMANKES?

Anyway, just imagine the future battlefield, where almost every smart ammunition and UAV, in TSK inventory,
will have an AI to detect and prioritize high-value targets. And all those platforms will communicate with each other.
Also they will be resistant against almost any kind of jamming.
Will the enemy have even a slight chance to counter this concept?