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Don't you guys think Azerbaijani president should publicly clarify why he signed the deal with Russia? He owe that to his people. Turkey should build at least two formidable bases with Azerbaijan in both sides of Russian territory.

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They are leaving the lands that they invaded in peace.

30 Years ago they gave 10 hours to Turks in order to leave their homes on foot.


Their leader was Monte Melkonian an internationally recognized terrorist whom killed civilians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Melkonian

Armenia declared this terrorist their national hero in 96.
 
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The footages we shared before just shows some parts of the ambushed convoy, that video below the whole result. That was a brutal ambush and i don't know how they did it? From the hill/cliff? I also see shrapnel damages on those vehicles eventually from frag grenades? This does not look like a airstrike neither artillery.
 

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That is the dumbest thing I ever saw. It'll probably set fire to the monastery. This means they have no hope of returning, which is a good thing. Imagine the Azeris who left their homes 30 years ago. At least some will have somewhere to return to, like that journalist lady.
 

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Armenia says 2,317 soldiers dead in Karabakh conflict​


Armenia on Saturday said that more than two thousand fighters were killed in six weeks of clashes with Azerbaijan over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region.

"To date, our forensic service has examined the corpses of 2,317 dead servicemen, including unidentified ones," Armenian health ministry spokeswoman Alina Nikoghosyan wrote on Facebook.

The updated death toll from the Armenian side pushes its fatalities up by nearly 1,000 compared to the last confirmed toll among Armenian fighters.

Nearly two months of fierce clashes between the ex-Soviet rivals ended this week with a Russian-brokered peace accord that sees Armenia cede swathes of territory captured by Azerbaijan's forces.

Baku's army has never revealed details of its military fatalities, but the overall human cost of the fighting is expected to be much higher than reported.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Friday that the number of fatalities in the conflict was higher than 4,000 and that some 8,000 people had been left injured.

At least 143 civilians have been confirmed dead in the fighting.

Putin said that tens of thousands of people had been displaced by the heavy clashes that also left "civilian infrastructure and numerous cultural sites" destroyed.

The peace deal stipulates that Azerbaijan's forces will retain control over areas seized in the fighting, including the second-largest town of Shusha, while Armenia agreed to a timetable to withdraw from large parts of Nagorno-Karabakh and surrounding regions.

 

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Russian peacekeepers in NK.

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All this war, death and hate in such small area....all this downstream entrenched visceral animosity too.

Think if Caucasus republics just inherited their SSR republic borders and respected them and no ethnic tensions surfaced, just treat everyone as human being first thing, enshrine their human rights as citizens in your new constitution....have pathway for dialogue only to resolve any issues of contention. It all seem so straightforward and simple in hindsight....but I guess everything is in hindsight.

I really cannot understand how neighbours that lived peacefully under USSR come to this zero-sum bloody mess as only answer. Armenians point to Sumgait. I am sure Azeris have their equivalent.....but surely there was enough inertia from before to overcome such flare ups? I mean I look at scale of riots, pogroms and massacres in some other places of world, yet cohesion/inertia overcame it readily and its put behind in rearview mirror now.

Or was USSR simply a long delay fuse?

It seem strange to me, these people lived together pretty much, I remember seeing interview of Azeri refugees from NK...they literally overnight could not believe their former friends turned on them this way to push them out where they lived for generations.
 

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All this war, death and hate in such small area....all this downstream entrenched visceral animosity too.

Think if Caucasus republics just inherited their SSR republic borders and respected them and no ethnic tensions surfaced, just treat everyone as human being first thing, enshrine their human rights as citizens in your new constitution....have pathway for dialogue only to resolve any issues of contention. It all seem so straightforward and simple in hindsight....but I guess everything is in hindsight.

I really cannot understand how neighbours that lived peacefully under USSR come to this zero-sum bloody mess as only answer. Armenians point to Sumgait. I am sure Azeris have their equivalent.....but surely there was enough inertia from before to overcome such flare ups? I mean I look at scale of riots, pogroms and massacres in some other places of world, yet cohesion/inertia overcame it readily and its put behind in rearview mirror now.

Or was USSR simply a long delay fuse?

It seem strange to me, these people lived together pretty much, I remember seeing interview of Azeri refugees from NK...they literally overnight could not believe their former friends turned on them this way to push them out where they lived for generations.

You’ll have to read up on Armenia. And make sure to read the first PM note after WW1.
 
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