China China's 6th gen fighter has made its maiden flight

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Let me ask your question to you, Replace all that you've said with NGAD, and answer me, what makes it better than a 5th gen F35 or F22?

I hope this answers your question.

As the Romans might say, Rogatio tua consulto insolubilis est—your question is deliberately unanswerable.
I dont consider NGAD as some 6 gen either. NGAD is also a long range interceptor.
 

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Next-gen air warfare
Fly higher
Fly faster
Have a longer range/combat radius
Carry longer-range weapons
Carry longer-range sensors
Let drones do the risky tasks
 

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Likely yes.
No DSI intakes, no S-duct. Obviously China lags behind the US in RAM, obviously China lags in aerodynamics, engines, avionics...

So it is no match both to F-22 and F-35. In terms of stealth, sensor fusion. network warfare, maneuverability, acceleration....

The only possible advantage is range due to its size. But 3 engines may kill that advantage too.
 

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No DSI intakes, no S-duct. Obviously China lags behind the US in RAM, obviously China lags in aerodynamics, engines, avionics...

So it is no match both to F-22 and F-35. In terms of stealth, sensor fusion. network warfare, maneuverability, acceleration....

The only possible advantage is range due to its size. But 3 engines may kill that advantage too.
China has plenty of experience with DSI intakes and what makes you think the JH-XX/J-XX doesn't have S-duct intakes?

On which basis can you that china lags behind in RAM, aerodynamics, network warfare, etc. ? They have a larger engineering workforce and a far bigger pool of new incoming Engineering graduates. What makes you think that the chinese have been unable to catch up to the americans in short time? Because you deem all chinese products as "inferior/knock-offs/cheap" simply because they are chinese? Like how the west once labeled japanese made goods and products.
 

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China claiming a 6th gen gives me the same energy as this meme.
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No DSI intakes, no S-duct. Obviously China lags behind the US in RAM, obviously China lags in aerodynamics, engines, avionics...

So it is no match both to F-22 and F-35. In terms of stealth, sensor fusion. network warfare, maneuverability, acceleration....

The only possible advantage is range due to its size. But 3 engines may kill that advantage too.


How do you now? You only saw a picture.
 

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China has plenty of experience with DSI intakes and what makes you think the JH-XX/J-XX doesn't have S-duct intakes?

On which basis can you that china lags behind in RAM, aerodynamics, network warfare, etc. ? They have a larger engineering workforce and a far bigger pool of new incoming Engineering graduates. What makes you think that the chinese have been unable to catch up to the americans in short time? Because you deem all chinese products as "inferior/knock-offs/cheap" simply because they are chinese? Like how the west once labeled japanese made goods and products.

Chinas progress is unbelievable! But they can not catch up US/EU. They can only copying them and maybe perfecting. But never doing something new. The reason is simple. They are not free minded.
 

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China has plenty of experience with DSI intakes and what makes you think the JH-XX/J-XX doesn't have S-duct intakes?
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It is similar in composition to Su-57 and YF-23 both dont have S-duct.

Why it does not have DSI I dont know, but it does not. Probably they wanted to make it very fast.

On which basis can you that china lags behind in RAM, aerodynamics, network warfare, etc. ? They have a larger engineering workforce and a far bigger pool of new incoming Engineering graduates. What makes you think that the chinese have been unable to catch up to the americans in short time? Because you deem all chinese products as "inferior/knock-offs/cheap" simply because they are chinese? Like how the west once labeled japanese made goods and products.
All Chinese planes are copies or based on something, they are still struggling to make a small regional passenger plane. They are not even close to US.
 

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Chinas progress is unbelievable! But they can not catch up US/EU. They can only copying them and maybe perfecting. But never doing something new. The reason is simple. They are not free minded.
They have already surpassed the EU and Russia.

They started by producing under license and are now building their very own designs. How are they not free minded?
 

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It is similar in composition to Su-57 and YF-23 both dont have S-duct.

Why it does not have DSI I dont know, but it does not. Probably they wanted to make it very fast.


All Chinese planes are copies or based on something, they are still struggling to make a small regional passenger plane. They are not even close to US.
The YF-23 does have a vertical s-duct?

So where did they copy this design from? The non-existent US counterpart?
 

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