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Just look at what South Korean and Turkey MoD did with their Defense industry and export push, they trying to fill Niche market brilliantly especially the South Korean with affordable prices and acceptable performance. And they had rather excellent after Sales support to continuously ramp up the export number.

And in my personal experience, i found Indian defense industry is for so long mingled with the Russian, and being affected by their style on doing business and after Sales performance.
 

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Just look at what South Korean and Turkey MoD did with their Defense industry and export push, they trying to fill Niche market brilliantly especially the South Korean with affordable prices and acceptable performance. And they had rather excellent after Sales support to continuously ramp up the export number.

And in my personal experience, i found Indian defense industry is for so long mingled with the Russian, and being affected by their style on doing business and after Sales performance.
indian defence products are actually not developed for exports originally and were basically a measure of survival , but lot of tie up helped in leap frogging tech unlike soko and turkey who enjoy affinity to west .

and if u look today the offering of india in missile department , exceeds anything soko or turkey offers , so does in radars . we lag in ground vehicle department and big uav , mini uav are quite good now , in aircraft department , we are in lead rn in product quality
 

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I strongly urge all Indian members to watch this debate of young Indian Muslims and Hindus. @Nilgiri @crixus @Zapper @Jackdaws et al.


How respectful, refreshing, well-educated and enlightened these young Indians are, it is amazing. It is so different to what we see today in the news. Hateful, racist, extrem voices have taken over the main stream media of India. They're poisoning the Indian youth. However, seeing that people - especially young people like these six - still exist, gives me hope for India's future.
 

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I strongly urge all Indian members to watch this debate of young Indian Muslims and Hindus. @Nilgiri @crixus @Zapper @Jackdaws et al.


How respectful, refreshing, well-educated and enlightened these young Indians are, it is amazing. It is so different to what we see today in the news. Hateful, racist, extrem voices have taken over the main stream media of India. They're poisoning the Indian youth. However, seeing that people - especially young people like these six - still exist, gives me hope for India's future.

On ground it's relatively peaceful. If there is atmosphere of poison with 200m Muslims there would be issues everyday. Killings and rape everyday. There is respect on the ground. This is not to say tension or friction do not exists. It does and will be there but will be managed.

However the media has gotten "loud". It's toxic to even watch some channels.
 

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I strongly urge all Indian members to watch this debate of young Indian Muslims and Hindus. @Nilgiri @crixus @Zapper @Jackdaws et al.


How respectful, refreshing, well-educated and enlightened these young Indians are, it is amazing. It is so different to what we see today in the news. Hateful, racist, extrem voices have taken over the main stream media of India. They're poisoning the Indian youth. However, seeing that people - especially young people like these six - still exist, gives me hope



This is how it is in the real world anyway. Almost everyone has Muslim friends. Quite a few have family members which have married into each others' families as well.
 

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Hateful, racist, extrem voices have taken over the main stream media of India. They're poisoning the Indian youth. However, seeing that people - especially young people like these six - still exist, gives me hope for India's future.
Sadly this is all due to politics

The ruling party is based on the "far, radical, right" as they say! Due to their recent screw ups, Mohdi had to ignite and silently promote tensions, hatred, rape within the indian community to force majority of the non-muslims into the far right by antagonising and encaging the muslims

Just read many posts on how Far-right hindu leaders are calling to rape muslim women, to take arms and kill imdian muslims; in order to cleanse the nation etc.....

At the end, the only winner is Mohdi while the indian community becomes more divided

This doesnt happen only in India though, many other countries like France adopt the same technique. Just look at what Macron is doing rn and you will understand the game. Sadly, Mohdi is taking things to the extreme as ppl are even more unhappy with him


However that doesnt mean that indians in general hate each other. In fact, I did befriend many indians both muslims and non-muslims and they were really bright

but as my political science teacher once said: "if you wanna ruin a basket with healthy, sweet, shiny apples, then all what you need to do is put one rotten one in the midst and watch the poison slowly spread" (this is a metaphor)
 

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Muslims got the country divided on the name of religion , they got their country exclusive for Muslims and see the audacity they even seeking more then equal rights in country which non muslims got .

such audacity must be admired LoL , I never understand why Muslims have problems in all the countries where they are in minority and they have no minority where they are in majority LOL
 

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Muslims got the country divided on the name of religion , they got their country exclusive for Muslims and see the audacity they even seeking more then equal rights in country which non muslims got .

such audacity must be admired LoL , I never understand why Muslims have problems in all the countries where they are in minority and they have no minority where they are in majority LOL
You must be really ignorant to think that there are no minorities in Muslim majority countries.
 

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Yazidi a minority in Iraq got their girls sold in markets of Iraq , Hindu girls in Paksitan got kidnapped raped and converted in front of their parents , Syrian christans are most presecuted in Syria , and the list goes on .......

Such a concern for those who got their country specific for them on relegious lines really make my eyes wet .......
 

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Muslims got the country divided on the name of religion , they got their country exclusive for Muslims and see the audacity they even seeking more then equal rights in country which non muslims got .

such audacity must be admired LoL , I never understand why Muslims have problems in all the countries where they are in minority and they have no minority where they are in majority LOL
@HTurk 👆👆 this is exactly what I mean

And @crixus all what I will say is that if the Hindu leaders havent been promoting genocide against the muslims for decades, Pakistan wouldnt have been formed and India would probably be a mighty superpower that is on par, if not surpassing, China itself

The idea is that when Islam spread in India and many started to convert from Hinduism to Islam, the influential Hindu leaders became alarmed as they believe that Islam may one day engulf Hinduism and thus the story began. Iam not really criticising you guys though. Its not like Hindu leaders are rhe only ones who believe this, but also many Western countries in terms of how Islam will oneday engulf Christianity and reduce its influence; hence, why muslim minorities in such countries are being targeted as well
 

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Muslims got the country divided on the name of religion , they got their country exclusive for Muslims and see the audacity they even seeking more then equal rights in country which non muslims got .

such audacity must be admired LoL , I never understand why Muslims have problems in all the countries where they are in minority and they have no minority where they are in majority LOL
What kind of mindset is that,you act like they are aliens?
Are they not Indians?
How are you different from the countries where they shun/discriminate their own people because of their religion?
Your ignorance is unbelievable,fyi Muslims are not a race.
Dont call it a Muslim problem when its an Indian problem.
 

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Yazidi a minority in Iraq got their girls sold in markets of Iraq , Hindu girls in Paksitan got kidnapped raped and converted in front of their parents , Syrian christans are most presecuted in Syria , and the list goes on .......

Such a concern for those who got their country specific for them on relegious lines really make my eyes wet .......
Those are Iraqi Pakistani and Syrian problems,not a Muslim problem,call it what it is.
Why it never happens in Malaysia,Indonesia,Bosnia,Russia,Morocco,Algeria etc or my country?
 

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@HTurk 👆👆 this is exactly what I mean

And @crixus all what I will say is that if the Hindu leaders havent been promoting genocide against the muslims for decades, Pakistan wouldnt have been formed and India would probably be a mighty superpower that is on par, if not surpassing, China itself

The idea is that when Islam spread in India and many started to convert from Hinduism to Islam, the influential Hindu leaders became alarmed as they believe that Islam may one day engulf Hinduism and thus the story began. Iam not really criticising you guys though. Its not like Hindu leaders are rhe only ones who believe this, but also many Western countries in terms of how Islam will oneday engulf Christianity and reduce its influence; hence, why muslim minorities in such countries are being targeted as well

I bet you know shit about south asia , India got divided in 1947 and before that British were the rulers , google direct action day and learn who gave call for whose genocide , and I am really glad India got divided on relegious lines . otherwise we endup in same shit as Pakistan .

If muslims feels insecure in India they have 56 countries exclusive with muslim population to go . India is ruled by Democracy which is based on vote of majority and muslims are not in majority and Mohdi is elected leader of a soverign country not some king or dictator like in Muslim countries

Dude even after call for so call genocide no muslims are seeking refuge like the Muslims from Syria and Iraq and the fun part is no Islamic country is giving them refuge .
 

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What kind of mindset is that,you act like they are aliens?
Are they not Indians?
How are you different from the countries where they shun/discriminate their own people because of their religion?
Your ignorance is unbelievable,fyi Muslims are not a race.
Dont call it a Muslim problem when its an Indian problem.
Ok so tell me why PAkistan got created in 1947 on what lines ?

Who said they are not Indians but do they consider themselves Indians , most of them consider themselves above LAw and when LAw takes course they shout Islamophobia . Its a muslims problem when they divided the country on relegious lines then the problem is on religious lines not ethnic or racial line
 

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Dude even after call for so call genocide no muslims are seeking refuge like the Muslims from Syria and Iraq and the fun part is no Islamic country is giving them refuge .
So,what does this tell you?
 

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