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@Rajaraja Chola @Milspec @suryakiran et al.

Surely IK caesar drama + DHA degeneracy wars.... is good (karmic) note to end things on (at clown forum), and just observe with popcorn from time to time as required/wanted?

The forum administration there is fully involved in persistent false flag multi-accounting in case you guys dont know.

just one (out of many) recent example: halfmoon-suvarna-akshay-<insert name>

Worst part is seeing whomever this "drjekyll" and "wood" ppl are.... fall for that stuff and play right into it.

Even when the place was "better"...they indulged this stuff (I brought it up with the webby there who would selectively consider A but not B etc.... and in hindsight its very clear he is part of its cultivation, all to be more "en vogue" with twitter trolling quantity et al).

So why waste time there and give them patronage knowing this is their model/agenda?...and now a reality check karma arrives where it matters yet again?

Last word drama is worth it? Some vice-addiction?

I understand why folks like Joe explore depths of atlantis up close to maybe remember things by and play sports with all that lurk in parts of it.... but there is no sane reason I can figure out for most of rest of you (but possibly I dont know you well enough either).

Fellow asserted ummah bros (Turks , Indonesians) left cold turkey and en masse (they finally sniffed what was up, decided enough is enough and just left to do something far better here)....yet some bollywood brigade are stuck there like an opium stench...no matter the crap and abuse thrown their way (and many of you surely know much more thats happened).

Yet you and many others persist there....

IMO, Best to leave and tell others like you why. .... you are just propping up a smashed relic and the foul gunk it contained all along.

Disturbing. Why not let adversary simply realise its aukat (which is proceeding swimmingly if you let it) itself?

You staunchly decide to remain part of the problem (with them and with us).... rather than just focus on solutions for us.
Was on pakistanidefenceforum before the current version. Have engaged with them, i think for almost 20 years. Had a lovely conversation with Ardeshir Cowasjee when he was alive over email when he was alive. He was probably one of the few sane voices on that side. Probably one of the few Pakistanis who realised early on that the nuclear blackmail will not work for long. That was the gist of our conversation.

Let me phrase this in Hindi, jitna maza ungli karne mein hai, utna aur kisi mein nahin. I dont want to lose touch with my soft trolling skills. But yea, i spend more time on sf than any other forum. i keep telling binoy and ashwin i will write an article and keep getting pulled in at work and home.
 
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Was on pakistanidefenceforum before the current version. Have engaged with them, i think for almost 20 years. Had a lovely conversation with Ardeshir Cowasjee when he was alive over email when he was alive. He was probably one of the few sane voices on that side. Probably one of the few Pakistanis who realised early on that the nuclear blackmail will not work for long. That was the gist of our conversation.

Let me phrase this in Hindi, jitna maza ungli karne mein hai, utna aur kisi mein nahin. I dont want to lose touch with my soft trolling skills. But yea, i spend more time on sf than any other forum. i keep telling binoy and ashwin i will write an article and keep getting pulled in at work and home.
There are too many trolls at SF. It isn't about Binoy and Ashwin, after all, it's a lot of others, and some of them downright obnoxious (as I am sure I must be obnoxious to them).

Over here, I believe that, at the moment, we have just the right balance. Others may or may not agree.

If you, personally, help out, I would like to involve some of us in thinking and talking about the defence issues in front of India - not the usual claptrap about "Wouldn't it be wonderful if we got Release 97 of the multi-calibre mini-flocculator Mark 29" variety, but rather more serious questions.

Of course, there is the getting pulled in to overcome.

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There are too many trolls at SF. It isn't about Binoy and Ashwin, after all, it's a lot of others, and some of them downright obnoxious (as I am sure I must be obnoxious to them).

Over here, I believe that, at the moment, we have just the right balance. Others may or may not agree.

If you, personally, help out, I would like to involve some of us in thinking and talking about the defence issues in front of India - not the usual claptrap about "Wouldn't it be wonderful if we got Release 97 of the multi-calibre mini-flocculator Mark 29" variety, but rather more serious questions.

Of course, there is the getting pulled in to overcome.

I am part of the part time mod team there. Takes effort to keep everyone in line! We try our best, but then we are unable to police all the time. We want to build something, but our work keeps getting in the way.
 

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I am part of the part time mod team there. Takes effort to keep everyone in line! We try our best, but then we are unable to police all the time. We want to build something, but our work keeps getting in the way.
It is not meant to dishearten or discourage you. Just to explain why I am uncomfortable.
There are some swines who keep making cheap comments.
Don't worry about it. Just that those irritants make me most comfortable here, followed by PDF.
 

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@Rajaraja Chola @Milspec @suryakiran et al.

Surely IK caesar drama + DHA degeneracy wars.... is good (karmic) note to end things on (at clown forum), and just observe with popcorn from time to time as required/wanted?

The forum administration there is fully involved in persistent false flag multi-accounting in case you guys dont know.

just one (out of many) recent example: halfmoon-suvarna-akshay-<insert name>

Worst part is seeing whomever this "drjekyll" and "wood" ppl are.... fall for that stuff and play right into it.

Even when the place was "better"...they indulged this stuff (I brought it up with the webby there who would selectively consider A but not B etc.... and in hindsight its very clear he is part of its cultivation, all to be more "en vogue" with twitter trolling quantity et al).

So why waste time there and give them patronage knowing this is their model/agenda?...and now a reality check karma arrives where it matters yet again?

Last word drama is worth it? Some vice-addiction?

I understand why folks like Joe explore depths of atlantis up close to maybe remember things by and play sports with all that lurk in parts of it.... but there is no sane reason I can figure out for most of rest of you (but possibly I dont know you well enough either).

Fellow asserted ummah bros (Turks , Indonesians) left cold turkey and en masse (they finally sniffed what was up, decided enough is enough and just left to do something far better here)....yet some bollywood brigade are stuck there like an opium stench...no matter the crap and abuse thrown their way (and many of you surely know much more thats happened).

Yet you and many others persist there....

IMO, Best to leave and tell others like you why. .... you are just propping up a smashed relic and the foul gunk it contained all along.

Disturbing. Why not let adversary simply realise its aukat (which is proceeding swimmingly if you let it) itself?

You staunchly decide to remain part of the problem (with them and with us).... rather than just focus on solutions for us.
I said it to thier face:

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Eventually I decided upon moving the recent discussion involving WW1, WW2 etc to this thread. It is better suited for it than this thread.

 

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Was on pakistanidefenceforum before the current version. Have engaged with them, i think for almost 20 years. Had a lovely conversation with Ardeshir Cowasjee when he was alive over email when he was alive. He was probably one of the few sane voices on that side. Probably one of the few Pakistanis who realised early on that the nuclear blackmail will not work for long. That was the gist of our conversation.

Let me phrase this in Hindi, jitna maza ungli karne mein hai, utna aur kisi mein nahin. I dont want to lose touch with my soft trolling skills. But yea, i spend more time on sf than any other forum. i keep telling binoy and ashwin i will write an article and keep getting pulled in at work and home.

I said it to thier face:

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I just hope message reaches all well meaning reasonable Indians there on whats going on and know the choices/alternatives. Then its matter of their taste/preference....I get people have itches they want scratching etc....to each their own on it.

Trolls of any side of course love trolls of other side....its a tragicomedy....trolls are not welcome here.

Rest I just let play out in various other ways, I got some professionals (I know) to monitor some of the nefarious elements that place has deliberately indulged and promoted even. 5 eyes et al. dont take too kindly these days to servers sitting in the US and indulging various extremists sitting in the West too.
 

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I hope you are comfortable here, and will let your thinking expand, especially on the ORBAT issue.
I am comfortable everywhere, irrespective of the platform I will keep writing what's on my mind.
I will try to put an infographic on the current Mechanized column configuration for the IBG vs my additions soon.

thanks
 

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Change of pace.....Up close look at mango juice production in India:


I will restart (bit later) where I left off the larger dialogue with you @Blackbeardsgoldfish ..... bit busy again lately heh.
 

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